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4th-Graders Reprimanded For Lewd Acts in Classroom.
Austin American Statesman ^ | 3/26/02 | Janet Jacobs and Jonathan Osborne

Posted on 03/26/2002 10:53:21 AM PST by marshmallow

MARBLE FALLS -- Police are investigating allegations that five fourth-grade boys performed oral sex on one another during class at least twice at Marble Falls Elementary School.

School officials confirm that the incidents took place and that they are treating the acts as lewd behavior. The boys were suspended for a day, have been put in alternative classes for 10 days and will receive counseling, said Superintendent Dana Marable.

"It was a dare," Marable said.

However, at least one mother, who asked not to be identified to protect her son's identity, said the acts were done under threat.

"My boy didn't want to, and the other boys threatened him if he didn't," she said.

In interviews with police, the boys -- all ages 9 and 10 -- admitted the acts took place last fall and again in February, said Marble Falls police Capt. Robert Sooter.

Marable said the acts took place during a free reading time, when everyone in the classroom, including the teacher, is supposed to be reading. The boys had retreated to beanbag chairs in the back of the classroom and were using their coats to hide from the teacher, the parent said.

"The little boys didn't do it in front of the teacher," Marable said. "They hid."

A child in the class told the teacher about the sex acts March 7, two days before spring break. The boys were suspended March 8. When they returned from spring break March 18, they were placed in alternative education.

Police said they learned about the incident March 18. School officials said they notified authorities March 8, in compliance with a Texas law requiring that abuse incidents be reported within 48 hours.

"All authorities have been notified in accordance with the letter of the law," said Marble Falls Elementary Principal Steve Shroft.

Police are concerned about three things: whether any of the boys used coercion and might be charged with a crime; whether the teacher or school officials were negligent or were slow to report the incidents; and whether the boys were re-enacting behavior they had learned elsewhere.

"Obviously, this is some kind of learned behavior, and it's our job to learn where it came from," Sooter said.

Amanda Van Hoozer, director of program services for the Children's Advocacy Center in Austin, said it's possible that one boy is more sexually advanced than the others and is sharing this knowledge. But, she said, a history of sex abuse is a more likely explanation.

"Some kids are really precocious," Van Hoozer said. "They know a lot more than other kids. They've seen it in a magazine, and they've decided to try it out for themselves. But if these kids are just normal, average 10-year-olds, most 10-year-olds have not been exposed to this. If they are sexually acting out . . . you certainly want to look at what's going on because it is indicative of abuse."

Van Hoozer said another child in the same circle of friends might have taught the acts to the boys.

"I think it's definitely a red flag that a child somewhere within this network of kids has been abused," she said. "But again, you have to stress that it may not be any of these kids."

Officials with the Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services, which investigates allegations of child abuse, said they are aware of the situation but have not opened an investigation.

"At this point, it doesn't appear to have been anyneglect or abuse by the caregiver, because it was child on child," said Marla Sheely, spokeswoman for the agency. "We're still following it. We're still looking over the whole issue of supervision."

The teacher, who was not identified by school officials, is still teaching the class, and there have been no changes of policy, Marable said.

"I'm sure that particular teacher has changed her policy," she said.


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To: goldstategop; FormerLib; Khepera; Brad's Gramma; EdReform;lentulusgracchus
LOL!!!! According to the accepted liberal definition, oral sex a la Clinton, isn't really sex at all. The 4th graders therefore committed no lewd act to have gotten them reprimanded in the first place. Shouldn't it have been time to move on? And any way, its a private matter. End of discussion.

Umm… aside from the fact that ex-43 said “sexual relations” which is a term of art for coitus, I’m not trying to defend him of course, you don’t think the fourth graders should have been reprimanded and it’s a private matter?

Wow! I hope you’re kids aren’t in the same class as mine, pre-pubescent 4th graders practicing perversion in the classroom seems like a no brainer for being intrinsically wrong, what are you advocating here? Either you have a drinking problem or you need to take another bong hit to get straight dude. I’m not even sure the most liberal of Liberaltarians would believe such nonsense. Just when you think you’ve heard all the stupidity there is…

101 posted on 03/26/2002 3:26:37 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: marshmallow
One was probably an alter boy.

Just kidding!!!!!!

(Donning flame-proof asbestous suit)

102 posted on 03/26/2002 3:35:25 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Excellent work to find their website. I sent off 4 emails to the most likely administrators. What an outrage.
103 posted on 03/26/2002 3:36:07 PM PST by austingirl
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To: marshmallow
Seriously, NAMBLA must be grinding their teeth with jealousy. Gaol accomplished, just no gay men present.
104 posted on 03/26/2002 3:36:46 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: marshmallow
I would really like to hear what the sex ed classes these future homos have been exposed to. What kind of "tollerance" have they been taught.

I'd like to ask the kid who started this, "Why?" And publish his answer everywhere.

I have the feeling that this is the canary in the mine. The first positive, un-ignorable warning of what has infiltrated our educational system.

105 posted on 03/26/2002 3:39:38 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: All
As HORRID as this subject is, it's been a delight to read the whole thread and not find ONE bozo defending this. Thanks to all of you!!!!
106 posted on 03/26/2002 3:41:20 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: aculeus
,,, the ball's in your court.
107 posted on 03/26/2002 3:41:34 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: marshmallow
My understanding of the incident is that the ten year old on the recieving end is on parole (for who knows what) and he bullied two of the boys to preform on him while the other two held up jackets to hide the act.While the "Teacher" had her back to the class at her PC.
I heard the above from a spokesman for one of the boys on the Jeff Ward Show on Austin Talk Radio.sad.....
108 posted on 03/26/2002 3:43:59 PM PST by Rightly Biased
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To: fourdeuce82d
What year was this?

It would have been the early 70's -- and, yes, it was the Midwest. Believe it or not, you can live your teenaged life without knowing about every sexual manuever that exists.

109 posted on 03/26/2002 3:45:28 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: MonroeDNA
Here
110 posted on 03/26/2002 3:56:41 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: marshmallow
I'm sure the Gay Alliance will love this. Can ever imagine this happening when you were a kid? Why wouldn't it now, think about it. Turn on Cable TV and you always see men having sex. It's not unusual. This is what the Gay movement wanted. They waited, they were patient and we let them put their foot in the door little by litte and now this is what we've sowed. No turning back.
111 posted on 03/26/2002 3:59:19 PM PST by Hildy
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To: TADSLOS
Not a dare, an activity they repeated. I have no doubt that pro-homosexual curricula played a role in breaking down the walls between perversion and normalcy in the minds of these boys. MTV and other media did a lot toward normalizing public sexual activity too.
112 posted on 03/26/2002 4:03:54 PM PST by ethical
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To: marshmallow
"Obviously, this is some kind of learned behavior, and it's our job to learn where it came from," Sooter said.
Learned!?

Why, you silly thing.... don't you KNOW that is a genetic thing, you wuz born this way, you can't change it, you MUST accept it.

(At least that's the MESSAGE on Network TV.)

113 posted on 03/26/2002 4:31:59 PM PST by Elsie
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To: MonroeDNA
BUMP!!
114 posted on 03/26/2002 4:50:09 PM PST by EdReform
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To: fourdeuce82d
Yes seriously. That was the summer of 1981 and I was completely floored.
115 posted on 03/26/2002 5:17:45 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Look at the facial profile and hair of that statue. It actually appears to be a monument to Hillary!
116 posted on 03/26/2002 5:55:38 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Wonder if MF elementary will not set up a pink triangle room complete with bean bag chairs?
117 posted on 03/26/2002 6:00:23 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: ethical
Bump
118 posted on 03/26/2002 6:26:55 PM PST by EdReform
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To: FreeperJr.
However, at least one mother, who asked not to be identified to protect her son's identity, said the acts were done under threat.

FreeperJr's reply:
He should have taken the beating instead.

Would you say something like that to a rape victim? (And if he did do it under threat, it was tantamount to rape.)

119 posted on 03/26/2002 9:10:40 PM PST by murdoog
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To: marshmallow
Homeschool time.
120 posted on 03/26/2002 9:50:53 PM PST by Salvation
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