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4th-Graders Reprimanded For Lewd Acts in Classroom.
Austin American Statesman ^ | 3/26/02 | Janet Jacobs and Jonathan Osborne

Posted on 03/26/2002 10:53:21 AM PST by marshmallow

MARBLE FALLS -- Police are investigating allegations that five fourth-grade boys performed oral sex on one another during class at least twice at Marble Falls Elementary School.

School officials confirm that the incidents took place and that they are treating the acts as lewd behavior. The boys were suspended for a day, have been put in alternative classes for 10 days and will receive counseling, said Superintendent Dana Marable.

"It was a dare," Marable said.

However, at least one mother, who asked not to be identified to protect her son's identity, said the acts were done under threat.

"My boy didn't want to, and the other boys threatened him if he didn't," she said.

In interviews with police, the boys -- all ages 9 and 10 -- admitted the acts took place last fall and again in February, said Marble Falls police Capt. Robert Sooter.

Marable said the acts took place during a free reading time, when everyone in the classroom, including the teacher, is supposed to be reading. The boys had retreated to beanbag chairs in the back of the classroom and were using their coats to hide from the teacher, the parent said.

"The little boys didn't do it in front of the teacher," Marable said. "They hid."

A child in the class told the teacher about the sex acts March 7, two days before spring break. The boys were suspended March 8. When they returned from spring break March 18, they were placed in alternative education.

Police said they learned about the incident March 18. School officials said they notified authorities March 8, in compliance with a Texas law requiring that abuse incidents be reported within 48 hours.

"All authorities have been notified in accordance with the letter of the law," said Marble Falls Elementary Principal Steve Shroft.

Police are concerned about three things: whether any of the boys used coercion and might be charged with a crime; whether the teacher or school officials were negligent or were slow to report the incidents; and whether the boys were re-enacting behavior they had learned elsewhere.

"Obviously, this is some kind of learned behavior, and it's our job to learn where it came from," Sooter said.

Amanda Van Hoozer, director of program services for the Children's Advocacy Center in Austin, said it's possible that one boy is more sexually advanced than the others and is sharing this knowledge. But, she said, a history of sex abuse is a more likely explanation.

"Some kids are really precocious," Van Hoozer said. "They know a lot more than other kids. They've seen it in a magazine, and they've decided to try it out for themselves. But if these kids are just normal, average 10-year-olds, most 10-year-olds have not been exposed to this. If they are sexually acting out . . . you certainly want to look at what's going on because it is indicative of abuse."

Van Hoozer said another child in the same circle of friends might have taught the acts to the boys.

"I think it's definitely a red flag that a child somewhere within this network of kids has been abused," she said. "But again, you have to stress that it may not be any of these kids."

Officials with the Texas Department of Protective and Regulatory Services, which investigates allegations of child abuse, said they are aware of the situation but have not opened an investigation.

"At this point, it doesn't appear to have been anyneglect or abuse by the caregiver, because it was child on child," said Marla Sheely, spokeswoman for the agency. "We're still following it. We're still looking over the whole issue of supervision."

The teacher, who was not identified by school officials, is still teaching the class, and there have been no changes of policy, Marable said.

"I'm sure that particular teacher has changed her policy," she said.


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To: LouD
I had some guy on another thread tell me that nobody had proved homosexuality was harmful to society. They called me ignorant and a liar when I said that homosexuals where not good role models but just common criminals. They posted pictures of guys in Elmer Fudd hats with rotten buck teeth as representations of me. Why don’t you guys go tell them a little story?
61 posted on 03/26/2002 12:13:47 PM PST by Khepera
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To: RichInOC
Aha! Another watcher of the evil Southpark. :-)
62 posted on 03/26/2002 12:14:00 PM PST by eaglewatch
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To: biblewonk
Not that I've seen. However I do know that there are quite a few double meanings to many of the jokes. Most definitely not a show for younger audiences. Haven't watched it in a few years. Lost me as a viewer back around the time the movie came out
63 posted on 03/26/2002 12:16:48 PM PST by billbears
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To: Mr. Wright
Gee, was it not the Bill Clinton's activities in the Oval Office that brought all of this attention to the oral sex phenomona! Little kids in the 4th grade did not know about this kind of stuff until Clinton came along. We can thank him and his motley crew for this!

Gee, could it be highly possible that these kids could have picked this up somewhere else other than Clinton. Not taking up for Bill Clinton, but could it be that these kids saw someone in their household, mom, dad, big brother, or sister. Someone in the household or friends household has porn mags, or just look at some of the music video on TV, speaking of TV, perhaps some cable movie channel. I doubt if these kids ever paid any attention to Clinton.

I had the opportunity to assist in chaperoning approximately 80 highschool band members from Tx to Fl last year for 4 days and 3 nights. The children, one would think would not be a problem, God forbid. Needless to say, I came back home a very unhappy camper.

What really surprises me about this, is how this makes the news, with everything else going on around us. To me this should be between the parents, the teachers, the principles, and the authorities. Did I miss something, did someone get killed? I don't think this should have made a newspaper. These children need help, not publicity.

64 posted on 03/26/2002 12:17:45 PM PST by TexKat
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To: newgeezer
Southpark is an adult show and there is a warning as such. IMHO it is one funny show and I watch it all the time.

As for eating feces, perhaps we should leave Mr. Hanky out of this discussion.

65 posted on 03/26/2002 12:19:08 PM PST by eaglewatch
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To: Texaggie79
Bwahaha...
66 posted on 03/26/2002 12:22:34 PM PST by maxwell
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To: summer
Hell, some of my teachers could read, write on the chalkboard, and whack the little miscreant in the last row into next week AT THE SAME TIME!

If this teacher was so absorbed in whatever she was reading that she overlooked five boys sucking each other off in the back of the room it musta been pretty damn interesting.

67 posted on 03/26/2002 12:26:36 PM PST by paddles
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To: Clint N. Suhks
You forgot to mention the Log Cabin Republicans, binky.

68 posted on 03/26/2002 12:29:04 PM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: paddles
Hell, some of my teachers could read, write on the chalkboard, and whack the little miscreant in the last row into next week AT THE SAME TIME!

LOL....

If this teacher was so absorbed in whatever she was reading that she overlooked five boys s*cking each other off in the back of the room it musta been pretty damn interesting.

She have should never allowed the multiple building blocks creating that situation to exist. And, you're also right -- she has to have her eyes on the students as well.
69 posted on 03/26/2002 12:31:49 PM PST by summer
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To: summer
She have should never = She should never have
70 posted on 03/26/2002 12:32:23 PM PST by summer
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To: RichInOC
The dog is her "daddy".
71 posted on 03/26/2002 12:32:25 PM PST by Justa
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To: marshmallow
"Obviously, this is some kind of learned behavior, and it's our job to learn where it came from," Sooter said.

So, how hard do you think they will be looking at the school's sex ed program?

72 posted on 03/26/2002 12:36:23 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: marshmallow
Amanda Van Hoozer, director of program services for the Children's Advocacy Center in Austin, said it's possible that one boy is more sexually advanced than the others and is sharing this knowledge. But, she said, a history of sex abuse is a more likely explanation.

Spring is in the air, and a young social worker's heart turns to witchhunt. Ah, the coerced testimonies, the exhorbitant counseling fees, the adoption bounties...

73 posted on 03/26/2002 12:37:19 PM PST by moyden
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To: newgeezer
I have never gotten old enough to appreciate 'South Park' and hope I never do.
74 posted on 03/26/2002 12:38:07 PM PST by XBob
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Fourth grade, heck, I was 19 and a junior in college when I heard of it and finally had the nerve to ask someone what in the heck it was.

You're still ahead of me. I believe I was 21. I had no idea people did this stuff to one another.

75 posted on 03/26/2002 12:39:54 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Texaggie79
Well, if the kids would only learn to keep their mouths shut this wouldn't happen.... literally.!
76 posted on 03/26/2002 12:39:56 PM PST by techcor
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To: XBob
I have never gotten old enough to appreciate 'South Park' and hope I never do.

Something tells me one's physical age has little or nothing to do with it.

77 posted on 03/26/2002 12:41:10 PM PST by newgeezer
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To: EdReform
Because homosexual acts are lewd behavior. Of course that's not what homosexual activists tell kids.

People who define themselves by their perversion need to recruit. Perversion must be taught in order for it to regenerate. The younger perversion is taught the easier this choice of behavior becomes an acceptable existence.

78 posted on 03/26/2002 12:47:10 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: summer
perfectionist.
79 posted on 03/26/2002 12:49:21 PM PST by paddles
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To: Clint N. Suhks
LOL!!!! According to the accepted liberal definition, oral sex a la Clinton, isn't really sex at all. The 4th graders therefore committed no lewd act to have gotten them reprimanded in the first place. Shouldn't it have been time to move on? And any way, its a private matter. End of discussion.
80 posted on 03/26/2002 12:50:03 PM PST by goldstategop
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