[Mensch]

How does this figure into the latest reparations debate? Are these guys descendents likely to become defendents to the class action?

[What Is Ain't]

Please, don't confuse the feel good reparations shakedown with facts.

[Austin Willard Wright]

Good point though one must say that 28 percent of the paltry free black population (only about 10 percent of all blacks in the U.S. in 1860) is 28 percent of very little indeed.

[hangin' chad]

This post is totally politically incorrect and will likely be deleted by our webmaster.

[uncbob]

The census also determined that there were fewer than 385,000 individuals who owned slaves (1). Even if all slaveholders had been white, that would amount to only 1.4 percent of whites in the country (or 4.8 percent of southern whites owning one or more slaves).

Not quite true Census counts all people woman and children included. So if they were 8 million in the south and each family had say 2 kids ( might be low ) they were about 2 million families . Therefore about 19% owned slaves or even higher if the families were bigger

[Argus]

Fascinating stuff.

[Reactionary]

How does it "figure?"

Let's see...

It "figures" because a small minority of whites actually owned slaves, yet everyone is expected to pay reparations. It "figures" because a disproportunate number of free blacks owned slaves themselves. It "figures" because reparations has nothing to do with reality, past or present.

[Free the USA]

fyi

[MozarkDawg]

How does this figure into the latest reparations debate? Are these guys descendents likely to become defendents to the class action?

One would hope it might put the whole subject to a close ... but then I'd be dreaming. The fact that such reparations would be unconstitutional should make the entire subject moot, anyhow -- we cannot now make a crime out of what at the time was legal practice, no matter how immoral one may see that practice. There are no living people who were once held as slaves, who by all rights should be the only ones to whom any reparations could be made, and no way in heck to prove absolute anscestry to those who are now demanding gubmint dough.

Shakedown, that's all this reparations-idea is.

[Don Myers]

bttt

[Captain Shady]

Slavery is still prevalent in many parts of Africa.Also ,reparations have been paid by affirmative action and other government programs.

[T. P. Pole]

bump for later read

[agrace]

Wow, I NEVER had any idea that there were black slave owners here in the US. A simple Google search turned up supporting articles as well. Of course we'll never hear about this in the regular media. This should be emailed to Rush and Sean Hannity. Alan Keyes too - he had a lively reparations discussion on his show tonight.

[Fiddlstix]

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[goldstategop]

They're not targeted by the reparations proponents. All of which goes on to show the only rationale for compensating victims of slavery is skin color, not one's condition or length of service in bondage. The existence of black slaveowners is embarrassing to the reparations advocates, which is why their presence is suppressed or explained away. It illustrates the truth of human nature, that when it came to engaging in the evil of trading in and possessing other human beings as mere property, blacks were not any less venal in that regards than whites. So what does one do about the descendants of black slaveowners? By any moral reckoning they should be properly excluded from any claim to compensation.

[wardaddy]

Reparations are a joke.....I'm a bit distracted by the Israel thing and can't think of anything pithy to add....but good thread.

[MSOD]

There is a work of fiction based upon the history of Black Slave Owners. The book “The Known World” by Edward P. Jones is a surprising and fascinating read.

MSOD

[Non-Sequitur]

Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country's leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.

That same census noted that there were 211,000 white people in Orleans parish and only 4200 total slave owners. So we're supposed to believe that out of a white population of 211,000 only 1200 owned slaves. And out of a black population of 11,000 over 3000 owned slaves? Does that sound likely?