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Should Alzona apologize?
20 posted on 03/28/2002 5:18:41 PM PST by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
No. No apology is in order.
30 posted on 03/28/2002 5:40:21 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Hail Caesar
No way should he apologize. The sooner we get the point across that these gungrabbers are indeed NAZIS, the better. Mark Shriver looks so perfectly natural in his uniform, doesn't he? His fatass uncle Teddy would look right at home in a Field Marshall's uniform, too.
37 posted on 03/28/2002 5:58:47 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Hail Caesar
No...but Colbert King should apologize to the tens of thousands of disarmed Zimbabwean citizens who are being murdered, raped, and tortured by government troops.
46 posted on 03/28/2002 6:24:38 PM PST by SR71A
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To: Hail Caesar
Apologize? For telling it like it is? The Rats and RINOs should apologize for trashing the Constitution.
48 posted on 03/28/2002 6:37:17 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Hail Caesar
Should Alzona apologize?

Yes he should, for being misunderstood by the morons on the left. He should apologize for confusing the cluttered little minds of the politically correct.

56 posted on 03/28/2002 6:48:21 PM PST by teeman8r
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Do another poster showing the 3 as abortionists. The pro-abortion idiots will probably view the second poster as a compliment (as an apology?). After all -- aren't abortions really performed FOR THE CHILDREN?
66 posted on 03/28/2002 7:40:00 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: Hail Caesar
Should Alzona apologize?

Nope.

71 posted on 03/28/2002 8:06:59 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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Apologize? Sure... why not? How about right after these three apologize for pushing Nazi-style gun laws?
83 posted on 03/28/2002 11:53:59 PM PST by Redcloak
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Absolutely not. But the media should apologize for not printing the LTE's supporting him and for not acknowledging that the Nazi's used gun registration and licensing to perpetrate the Holocaust.
86 posted on 03/29/2002 2:38:27 AM PST by Abundy
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Well, of course anything that is critical of the Democrats and their enormously harmful political agenda is going to be always labeled "hate speech." This just goes to show that:

YOU CAN'T GET ALONG WITH DEMOCRATS!!!!

I'm sure one way or another all of us will come to accept this reality and recognize this. The post continues to show themselves to be way out of touch with B.S. and C.F. like this.

87 posted on 03/29/2002 2:42:19 AM PST by E.G.C.
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Absolutely not. But the media should apologize for not printing the LTE's supporting him and for not acknowledging that the Nazi's used gun registration and licensing to perpetrate the Holocaust.

Sent this letter to the author, make sure Gus sees it and knows that many of us in Maryland support his use of the flyer:

Mr. King,

How about a little journalistic integrity on your part? As an American you have the absolute Right to be offended by his comparison of the proposed legislation's proponents to the Nazis. But as a Journalist you have an obligation to the truth.

In this issue, the truth happens to be on Mr. Alonza's side. The Nazis used already existing licensing and registration laws to round up all firearms from the Jews. Once disarmed, they used the same lists to perpetrate the Holocaust. Don't take my word for it, read "Registration: The Nazi Paradigm" by Stephen Pl Halbrook, Ph.D., J.D. at www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html.

Even more offensive, to the truth, prosecuting a criminal for violating firearms licensing and registration laws has already been declared unconstitutional in 1968 by the US Supreme Court. That's right; violations of such laws can only be prosecuted when committed by previously law-abiding citizens. These laws violate the Fifth Amendment Rights of criminals. Don't take my word for it, read HAYNES v. UNITED STATES, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), which said "We hold that a proper claim of the constitutional privilege against self-incrimination provides a full defense to prosecutions either for failure to register a firearm under 5841 or for possession of an unregistered firearm under 5851."

Further, licensing and registration laws have already been used to confiscate firearms in Washington, D.C.; New York city, California and Maryland. Law abiding gun owners were told to register their firearms, but that the lists would never be used to confiscate them. Political winds subsequently changed and the lists were used to do exactly that. Maryland and California's confiscation is occurring even as I write this letter. In Maryland, the State Police are confiscating previously legally purchased firearms (the purchases being approved by the Maryland State Police) without compensating the individuals for their property; without search warrants and without allowing the owners time to challenge their decision in Court - all because the Attorney General has decided to retroactively apply a change in the law regarding firearms disability. That should offend anyone on the Right or the Left, as it undermines basic Constitutional principals.

Those of us that recognize the red-headed step-child of Civil Rights, the Second Amendment, have long known these facts and cannot get the media to acknowledge them. We are often called "nazis" by such "moderate organizations" as CeaseFire, The Million Mom March, Marylanders Against Handgun Abuse, The Violence Prevention Center and the Brady Campaign.

When this dust-up started I sent the following letter to several newspapers - did any of them print it? Hell no. The facts are too damaging to their agendas. I implore you to take the time to look at what I have said. Regardless of your personal opinions, you have an obligation to the truth - just like those delegates have an obligation to the truth and the Constitution.

Before you write me off as a knuckle-dragging, one-eyebrowed, right-wing, militia redneck - know that I'm a former police officer and now an attorney.

My letter follows:

So Messer’s. Morrella, Frosh, Van Hollen and Shriver are offended by the comparison of their proposed laws to the Nazi firearms regulations? Tough.

They are politicians with an obligation to the Constitution and the Truth. If they don't like the fact that they are pursuing an agenda right out of the Third Reich's playbook then maybe they should re-examine their positions on the issue of licensing and registration of firearms owners and their affiliations with radical organizations like CeaseFire, The Million Mom March, Marylanders Against Handgun Abuse, The Violence Prevention Center and the Brady Campaign.

All of these organizations and their leaders have advocated publicly, at least on one occasion, that their ultimate goal is to render illegal the private possession of firearms by non-military and police. All of these organizations intend to bring this goal about incrementally, by passing one law after another "for the children" that have nothing to do with criminals and only affect law-abiding individuals.

Prosecuting a criminal for violating firearms licensing and registration laws has already been declared unconstitutional in 1968 by the US Supreme Court. That's right; violations of such laws can only be prosecuted when committed by previously law-abiding citizens. These laws violate the Fifth Amendment Rights of criminals. Don't take my word for it, read HAYNES v. UNITED STATES, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), which said "We hold that a proper claim of the constitutional privilege against self-incrimination provides a full defense to prosecutions either for failure to register a firearm under 5841 or for possession of an unregistered firearm under 5851."

Gun control zealots in these organizations know this and don't care, because they aren't concerned with prosecuting criminals - they are only concerned about making criminals out of gun owners. The above-named politicians either have the same agenda or have been grossly negligent with their obligation to the constitutional rights of their law-abiding constituency.

What does this have to do with Mr. Alonza's flyer? Well, the Nazi's used the firearms registration lists of law-abiding Jews to first round up their firearms and then later round up the Jews themselves. Don't take my word for it, read "Registration: The Nazi Paradigm" by Stephen Pl Halbrook, Ph.D., J.D. at www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html. Such laws will never take hold in this country, because I, and 80 million other firearms owners, will never, ever, allow a government to license my rights. That's my Right as a Citizen and my obligation to the Constitution as an attorney. We won't register our firearms, nor will we allow ourselves to be licensed. We will fight every attempt to infringe these rights by these radicals with lawsuits. We will also use the truth to expose the politicians who lie in bed and prostitute their position in defiance of our Rights and the truth. Sometimes, as in the case of this flyer, the truth is ugly and offensive to those who are on the wrong side of it.

By God's Grace the politicians will not abdicate their obligations to our Rights and the lawsuits won't fail because there isn't enough jail space to hold 80 million innocent people.

____


90 posted on 03/29/2002 3:01:01 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Hail Caesar
"Should Alzona apologize?"

HC, NO!! Tell him to copy Aaron Zelman's Response and spread it liberally. Peace and love, George.

92 posted on 03/29/2002 3:42:25 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: Hail Caesar
Should Alzona apologize?

NO

105 posted on 03/29/2002 5:16:29 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: Hail Caesar
Should Alzona apologize?

Only if his opponents will respond by saying, "Okay; I'm satisfied now."

In other words: No.

136 posted on 04/01/2002 8:33:01 AM PST by SMASH IMPERIALIST LIBERALISM!!
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