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Triangle United Way, Boy Scouts council in standoff
News Observer ^ | 3/29/02 | MOLLY HENNESSY-FISKE

Posted on 03/30/2002 6:09:11 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Area Boy Scouts could lose Triangle United Way money unless leaders of the two organizations find a way for the Scouts to comply with a nondiscrimination policy.

The Occoneechee Council of Boy Scouts of America refused to submit the required policy with its application for certification as a United Way agency and was denied certification March 14.

Council officials are appealing the decision. A final decision is expected April 23 at the next Triangle United Way board meeting.

The council, which has a $2.4 million budget this year, received about $448,000 from Triangle United Way last year. The council serves 21,000 boys in 12 counties, including Durham, Orange and Wake.

If the council loses certification, Triangle United Way donors could still specify that their money go to the Scouts. But the Scouts would not receive money from general fund raising after July 2003.

"United Way represents the entire community, and its charge is to deliver human services to everyone in the community," Triangle United Way board chairman Roger L. Perry said Thursday. "We just cannot be in a position of funding organizations that discriminate in providing those services."

Council leaders decided not to submit to the policy because it could conflict with the Scouts' national charter, local council CEO Tom J. Dugger said. Under that charter, Boy Scouts of America reserves the right to exclude boys who are atheist or agnostic, for example. The same would apply to boys who are gay, national spokesman Greg Shields said.

"Scouting has worked for 93 years ... and we simply feel we cannot change the bylaws," Dugger said.

The matter had appeared resolved last year. After the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in June 2000 that the Scouts can exclude gay men as troop leaders, the United Way received some pressure to cut off funding.

The Triangle United Way announced last May that it would require member agencies to offer services and programs to people regardless of sexual orientation. At the same time, it allowed agencies to exclude gays as employees and volunteers and still receive money.

The United Way boards in Wake and Durham counties adopted similar standards. But the Orange County board adopted a broader policy that covers staff and volunteers. That meant that when their certification expires in July 2003, the Scouts would receive only designated donations in Orange County.

Triangle United Way leaders said Dugger and other council leaders assured them they could comply with requirements in Durham and Wake.

Dugger said he tried but never promised to do anything that would compromise the Scouts' charter.

Dugger said the local Scouts saw designated donations rise after the United Way changed its policy and is confident donors will remain faithful should the organizations part ways. For a compromise, he said, Triangle United Way will have to give.

That appears unlikely. Of 80 agencies that applied for certification this year, the Scouts council was the only one that did not submit a nondiscrimination policy, the United Way said. If it doesn't do so by the board meeting, then "almost certainly they will not be certified," Perry said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; discrimination; ratmediabias
The church and Scouts were attacked, why not Clinton for his pardon?
1 posted on 03/30/2002 6:09:11 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I had just seen this article elswhere on the web and was going to post it myself if you had not already done so. Isn't there some connection between the term triangle and the so-called "gay agenda?" As a scout leader these things really make my hair stand on end.
2 posted on 03/30/2002 6:13:59 AM PST by AdA$tra
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Dugger said the local Scouts saw designated donations rise after the United Way changed its policy and is confident donors will remain faithful should the organizations part ways.

De-funding the Scouts has been a double-edged sword for the UW, with the Scouts appearing to come out on top as disgusted donors pull their UW donations and give the money directly to the local BSA.

3 posted on 03/30/2002 6:28:46 AM PST by randog
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Jeeeze, Folks!
Most of us STOPPED
giving to the "UnUnited Way" years ago
Give DIRECTLY to groups you want to support
Go around the corrupt PC crowd at "UnUnited Way"
Semper Fi
4 posted on 03/30/2002 6:28:50 AM PST by river rat
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The BSA should find other siurces of funding. Go to religous charties at the local and national level. do not give in. Does someone have an email for this council?
5 posted on 03/30/2002 6:36:32 AM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I presume that this is really about the Boy Scouts homesexual leadership ban rather than some unenforced rule against agnostics. What with the problems with gay Catholic priests, the Boy Scouts homosexuality policy is so vindicated that you'd think the UW people would be ashamed to do this at this time. Oh well.
6 posted on 03/30/2002 6:42:04 AM PST by Steve Eisenberg
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To: Steve Eisenberg
What with the problems with gay Catholic priests, the Boy Scouts homosexuality policy is so vindicated that you'd think the UW people would be ashamed to do this at this time.

I suppose the next step in the purification of the Boy Scouts is to revoke the charter of those groups led by a Catholic priest?

7 posted on 03/30/2002 6:50:33 AM PST by irksome1
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To: irksome1
Someone PLEASE post web address for UW and Scouts if possible.....Thanks - TEXAS LIZARD
8 posted on 03/30/2002 7:23:38 AM PST by Texas Lizard
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To: river rat
""United Way represents the entire community, and its charge is to deliver human services to everyone in the community," "

Uh huh, just NOT the Boy Scouts. Time to BK the United Way......all the Way!!
9 posted on 03/30/2002 7:26:47 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The United Way and the Red Cross are a national disgrace.In these and similar instances they are using money to force an unwanted political agenda.People should not give any support whatsoever to these organizations as their goal is to destroy AMERICAN VALUES AND TRADITIONS.
10 posted on 03/30/2002 7:40:46 AM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Let the lesbians join the boy scouts and the homosexual males join the girl scouts
11 posted on 03/30/2002 7:59:18 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Don't worry, the Boy Scouts are going to put the Queers back into the Closet of Shame where they belong.
12 posted on 03/30/2002 8:03:55 AM PST by Texbob
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To: river rat
Right on. Also, the thing to do is urge, urge, urge your employer to opt out of the United Way corporate program. If they still have the pressure sessions to get you to contribute, DON'T GIVE IN! The only thing the UW will understand is when their donations decline.
13 posted on 03/30/2002 8:37:37 AM PST by white_wolf
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To: Texas Lizard
Someone PLEASE post web address for UW and Scouts if possible.....

From their web site:
"If you have questions about Triangle United Way, we would like to answer them."
Contact Triangle United Way, (Triangle = Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, NC)


Beware.

14 posted on 03/31/2002 8:28:39 PM PST by Ides of March
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