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To: Pearls Before Swine
Flat tax good, rate too low. I've heard different theories ranging from 17% to 23% on what the flat tax would need to be to cover current expenditures. Anything less, and people scream about services.

Current expenditures are far and away too high, and most are grossly unconstitutional.

The country managed to survive for a century with an income tax of zero, and was then introduced with a "guarateed" maximum cap of 4%. Although the direct taxes are now about 20-30%, the things people buy with after-tax money were produced by tax-paying companies, and for which sales tax is collected, and people even have to spend after-tax income to pay for income-tax compliance, such as tax software, tax return preparation services, and so forth... I think the real tax rate ends up being something like 70% when you calculate how much of your labor pays directly for goods that you wish to buy, the balance is taxes somewhere or other.

An effective tax rate of 70% is clearly too high.

41 posted on 03/31/2002 2:19:30 PM PST by coloradan
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To: coloradan

I think the real tax rate ends up being something like 70% when you calculate how much of your labor pays directly for goods that you wish to buy, the balance is taxes somewhere or other.

Pretty close:

We must . . . End Tax Slavery Now; Nov '97
by Jarret B. Wollstein

HOW MUCH DO YOU REALLY PAY?

     According to the Tax Foundation, in 1994 the average American paid 22.4% of his or her income in federal taxes, plus 11.8% in state and local taxes - 34.2% total.

     But that's just the beginning! Dr. James Payne of the University of California found that in addition to direct taxes we also pay huge, hidden taxes including:

     For every $1 we pay in direct taxes, we spend an additional $0.65 in compliance costs. And even that figure doesn't include the cost of import duties, license fees and other government regulations. For a typical U.S. family, the real cost of taxes and regulations is at least:

Federal taxes              22.4% of income
State & local taxes      11.8%
Compliance costs        22.2%
Regulatory costs         12.7%

70.1% of your income is now consumed by government


47 posted on 03/31/2002 2:27:20 PM PST by ancient_geezer
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