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To: 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr; Simcha7; AnnaZ; dennisw; babylonian; InvisibleChurch; Sir Gawain; crystalk...
Bush Reaffirms Vision of Palestinian State

What a horrifying vision!!! Daniel has seen these kind of nightmarish 'visions'...

Daniel 8:27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished (see Hithpolel below, in red)* at the vision, but none understood it.

*08074 shamem {shaw-mame'}
a primitive root; TWOT - 2409; v
AV - desolate 49, astonished 20, desolation 7, waste 5, destroy 3,
wondered 2, amazed 1, astonishment 1, misc 4; 92

1) to be desolate, be appalled, stun, stupefy
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to be desolated, be deflowered, be deserted, be appalled
1a2) to be appalled, be awestruck
1b) (Niphal)
1b1) to be desolated, be made desolate
1b2) to be appalled
1c) (Polel)
1c1) to be stunned
1c2) appalling, causing horror (participle)
1c2a) horror-causer, appaller (subst)
1d) (Hiphil)
1d1) to devastate, ravage, make desolated
1d2) to appal, show horror
1e) (Hophal) to lay desolate, be desolated
1f) (Hithpolel)
1f1) to cause to be desolate
1f2) to be appalled, be astounded
1f3) to cause oneself desolation, cause oneself ruin

Same word is used here...

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate [Polel], even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate [Qal].

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate [Polel].

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate [Qal] set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Who's got the legitimate property rights here, the children of the Creator, or the lying murderous children of the destroyer???

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Bush reaffirmed his commitment to a Palestinian state.

"I've got a vision for the Middle East that says Israel must be allowed to exist," he said at a fund-raising reception in Philadelphia. "I hope that they (the Palestinians) can have their own peaceful state ... but there are those who want to destroy that vision, there are those that want to murder to make sure that vision never comes to be."

What is this??? The destroyers are the ones who want a Pali state as a [further] means to destroy Israel... the last step to their 'final solution'.

This is a vision of peace peace when there is no peace, if ever I saw one!!!

15 posted on 04/02/2002 6:08:04 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
That isn't a vision, that's a nightmare! Next time he has one like that, he had better roll over and go back to sleep, and not tell anybody about it!

PS Dan 8 is so fascinating a passage to me that I haven't ever dared to post about it...

16 posted on 04/02/2002 6:33:37 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Thinkin' Gal
First off, thanks for the ping since I have taken to clicking here (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/site/user-posts?id=10714) to find out what's going on.
 
;^)
 
 
 
Secondly... GAG!!! I mean, c'mon, Dubya, you are paying attention to what's going on, aren'tcha?
 
"... but there are those who want to destroy that vision, there are those that want to murder to make sure that vision never comes to be."
Sometimes ya just gotta pray it's one of those endearing "gaffes"... and nowhere near any proposed reality.
 
Malachi 4
 
1: For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2: But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
4: Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
 
Anyone seen Elijah lately?
 
(Keep on the lookout: http://www.aish.com/wallcam/)

19 posted on 04/02/2002 6:46:12 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter
What is this??? The destroyers are the ones who want a Pali state as a [further] means to destroy Israel... the last step to their 'final solution'.

This is the Judgment of God against America.

28 posted on 04/03/2002 2:45:01 AM PST by 2sheep
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