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More proof that liberals don't really want "tolerance" in the field of sexual-orientation... they want blanket acceptance of even the most abhorrent behaviors.
1 posted on 04/03/2002 9:01:30 AM PST by ImbecileBoy
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University of Minnesota, eh? WAKE UP, MINNESOTA!!
2 posted on 04/03/2002 9:05:40 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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I wonder if the Catholic Church puts this woman on retainer.
3 posted on 04/03/2002 9:06:32 AM PST by 07055
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Of course, I'm sure you are all aware by now that our old "friend", Jocelyn Elders, wrote the forward for this book. She was on MSNBC this morning doing her usual double-talk. What a bunch of sickos the Democrats gave us in the Clinton administration!!!
4 posted on 04/03/2002 9:06:51 AM PST by Winfield
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When I was a minor, I had sex with an adult," she said. "He was one of my first lovers.

So are we talking in the top five?
Top ten?
Top fifty?

5 posted on 04/03/2002 9:11:50 AM PST by Izzy Dunne
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You should be banned for life for not putting a BARF alert with this posting.:)

These idiots think we will believe anything if they say it enough times, and
say it with enough conviction. this kind a crap pisses me off.
don't freaking tell me how to raise my kids, or that I was raised incorrectly
rant over.....
6 posted on 04/03/2002 9:13:22 AM PST by vin-one
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they want blanket acceptance of even the most abhorrent behaviors.

It will go beyond that. They will promote and attempt to compel participation, because refusing to participate, in itself, reproves them.

7 posted on 04/03/2002 9:13:42 AM PST by Risky Schemer
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a boy's sexual experience with a priest could be positive.

I'm sure the priests all believe this.
I'm waiting for all the revelations from men who were buggered as boys who now claim that it was a positive experience.

Waiting....

Waiting...

8 posted on 04/03/2002 9:14:29 AM PST by Izzy Dunne
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"When I was a minor I had sex with an adult...My heart was broken...I'd say on balance that it was a perfectly good experience."
Hmmmm...what a better way to work through some dark psychological issues than by writing a book stating that even though you were horribly abused - you came out of fine. How can anyone take this seriously?
9 posted on 04/03/2002 9:17:18 AM PST by JH147
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On the 'Mike Gallagher Show' this morning, he mentioned that Ms. Levine has been quoted as saying that "she is aroused by nude photos of four-year old girls." Is the University of Minnesota (the Great Red North, Land of 10,000 Flakes) OUT OF THEIR FREAKING MIND??? By the way; kudos to all you "homophobes" out their on FR who proclaimed that pedophilia was NEXT on the 'gay approval' list. I would assume bestiality is next...at least the author of that charming little tome knows where to find a publisher. Maybe they should call it "MUSKRAT LOVE". (Apologies, America.)



10 posted on 04/03/2002 9:17:57 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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This on the heels of Speedy Gonzalez being censored as harmful to children.
11 posted on 04/03/2002 9:18:43 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Related article here
13 posted on 04/03/2002 9:20:41 AM PST by Just another Joe
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This perversion already up for sale on Amazon:
Pro-Pervert Book
14 posted on 04/03/2002 9:22:21 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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More incredulous drivel straight from the horses mouth...

http://www.upress.umn.edu/HarmfultoMinors.html

I hope the taxpayers in Minnesota are proud...

17 posted on 04/03/2002 9:25:54 AM PST by ImbecileBoy
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Judith Levine is a sick friggin person ! Typical of the Minnesotta leftist community ....
20 posted on 04/03/2002 9:41:49 AM PST by Marobe
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Well, the thesis is probably sound. Some kids aren't harmed by sex with adults. You could make the analogy that if someone fires a gun into a crowd, often, no one is hurt.

I guess the point is that you can't tell who is going to be hurt in advance and the presumption is the kids are too young to make the judgement for themselves. Hence in the default it makes sense to prohibit it until the child is of sufficient age and wisdom to knowingly consent to the risks. In my case that would be about 67 years old. :-)

25 posted on 04/03/2002 11:12:18 AM PST by jlogajan
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All the buzz, here and elsewhere, has pushed this book to #32 Amazon rank - - - so Judith is no doubt applauding all these discussions.
26 posted on 04/03/2002 12:33:12 PM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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The Perils of Protecting Children From Sex,"

The perils of trying to peddle a child to provide free sex for adults as if it was lower than paid whores while threatening parents who protect their children. These types of people should have never been able to promote such terrorism and theft of American children in the first place. Where are our cops, where is our justice, where is homeland security, where are conservatives???

39 posted on 04/04/2002 2:12:27 PM PST by lavaroise
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my heart was broken by a lot of boys, too.

Anyone want to bet she has long since switched to girls?????

42 posted on 04/04/2002 2:26:48 PM PST by TRY ONE
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I've posted several times on this and other forums that this (normalization of pedophilia) was coming. On this thread are several statements that indicate we're already moving into the next phase. Phase 1 is when you're so disgusted by conduct, you don't even discuss it. Phase two is when jokes about it start becoming common. Phase three is when a leading "authority" writes an article claiming it isn't so bad. The book is another step. This is the one where we "sit down and discuss it rationally."

The comments on this thread, Have you all ever considered...reading the book and looking at the concepts behind it before attacking it? and This book's main thesis is that sexual education is lacking in America...that does not relate to having sex with corpses which is a clinically diagnosed disease show this is happening already.

The second issue is that the Church, which should be leading the battle against this, is currently involved in it's own scandal. Posts on this thread which state I wonder if the Catholic Church puts this woman on retainer. show how badly the Catholic Church is going to get battered if it makes any noise about this. The Protestant Church is unable to adequately address these issues because most denominations quit believing in Jesus Christ probably about thirty years ago. What passes for theology today is "go along to get along" and "practice random acts of kindness". Most of the Episcopals, Lutherans, Methodists, etc., lack the backbone, or the intellectual ability, to have much affect on this movement.

The final breakover will be when the American Psychological Association reclassifies pedophilia so that it is no longer a psychological disease. Following this, the child will be given the "freedom" to choose his or her lover, and parents beating the h*ll out of a thirty year old who comes to pick up their twelve year old daughter for a date will be handcuffed, hauled off to jail, and have their children taken away from them. The UN has already made proposals directed at "providing fundamental rights to children" which would accomplish most of this.

Since many parents today consider their children a nuisance, enough will say nothing that there will be a steady supply of children for the desires of the pedophiles.

I'm not sure if all of this is coordinated on this plane, although I'm sure it is on a spiritual plane by the lord of the flies.

One article I saw recently on MSNBC indicated to me that there is already a movement afoot to make people opposing this look like "the Taliban", the "Radical Right", etc. They had an article which stated the government was considering going after "young model" sites. According to the article, these sites show girls, ages 8 to 13 or so, posing in swimsuits, etc. There is no nudity, but there was definitely an edge to the article that indicated that parents who photograph their children playing in a lawn sprinkler might end up being prosecuted. Along with this were quotes from legal scholars saying, "well, it may be distasteful, but we allow a lot of leeway to protect freedom of expression in this country."

I expect to see some stories about an eighteen year old boy going to jail for having sex with his sixteen or seventeen year old girlfriend, and the general media full blitz to convince people that our current laws are outdated and should be repealed.

The National Endowment for the Arts has already funded a travelling photo exhibition by dead homosexual photographer Robert Maplethorpe, which included photographs of nude children as young as age 10, and defended the exhibition when Cincinnati tried to have it barred from their art museum as being pornographic.

Our problem is that we see things as bits and pieces, when it's really part of an integrated plan. We think we're fighting one battle, when we're being outflanked by the left who are conducting a coordinated war. While we fret over this book, they are moving on "freedom of speech", "rights of the child", "artistic expression", "sex education", and painting us as intolerant bigots.

Somebody here point out a flaw in my logic, because I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

46 posted on 04/04/2002 6:49:16 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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I just love this new America. My only question is, when do the fireballs begin falling?
51 posted on 04/04/2002 8:22:30 PM PST by Don Myers
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