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To: r9etb
Either you believe this...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness

...or you don't. I do. You obviously don't. There is no just philosophy that empowers men to govern over those who do not consent to be governed by them.

31 posted on 04/03/2002 10:43:31 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Rodney King
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--

I can't say what you believe, but we do know for a fact that the men who formed the Confederate States of America did not believe those words from the Declaration above. Read the Cornerstone Speech to see Stephens actually criticize Jefferson, et. al. for penning those ‘foolish’ words and expressing the notion of equality. The Confederacy was founded on the bedrock principle of inequality. It made no bones about it.

It had no moral case.

75 posted on 04/03/2002 11:36:21 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Rodney King
There is no just philosophy that empowers men to govern over those who do not consent to be governed by them.

I don't know that you can govern someone who does not consent, even if only under duress, to be governed by you. I think maybe you have to let them do as they please--or kill them.

232 posted on 04/03/2002 5:22:43 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: Rodney King
There is no just philosophy that empowers men to govern over those who do not consent to be governed by them.

Amen.

474 posted on 04/06/2002 6:18:15 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Rodney King
Does that include the slaves, too?
475 posted on 04/06/2002 6:24:15 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Rodney King
I meant to draw your attention to post 484 too, but forgot to put you in the "To" block.
485 posted on 04/06/2002 10:35:01 AM PST by KrisKrinkle
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