[FresnoDA]

WOW...Pierce is really angry....

[FresnoDA]

RED ALERT...PING..) ) )

[Freedom2specul8]

I won't even comment... :-p

Let's all scream it together..

SOMEONE is guilty!

[Freedom2specul8]

God forbid, I bet he use to GASP change her diapers! Call the police!

[Saundra Duffy]

I think I'm going to be sick.

[RGSpincich]

Pierce is an opportunist. He has no assets and his so-called foundation has done nothing that can be verified. He is pandering. The Jesse Jackson of child-abuse.

[Lanza]

Do you think he is on the defense witness list? If Rick Roberts said they bought a BMW, I believe it. He was right on the swinger thing.

[tutstar]

Yall have been busy while I was gone today. LOL

Pierce obviously has some of the same questions some us have .

[mini_teacup]

Hey all, I am kinda new here. I have been following this case both in the news, and online through a web sleuthing forum. I am torn on this subject to be honest. I am a mother of 4 children myself, and a stay at home mom on top of that. I am a native of Southern Ca also, however I now live in NC. My children are roughly the same age as the Van Dams. Anyway. from the start this case has touched me for obvious reasons. I have followed it like I said and there are quite a few things that do not mesh and do bother me. Let me state for the record I dont CARE what the parents lifestyle is, or what they choose to do in their own bedroom. I do however care IF it contributed to their daughters death. All in all if their unwatchiful eyes, or at worst they invited the perp over is what caused it then they are culpible in some way. If anything, neglect. However as a stay home mom myself who has been known to go out with friends, I cannot understand how this little girl was not checked on for so long. Nor can I understand the need to expose any child to strangers and possible danger. In my experience you cannot parent a child and say "Now sweetie dont talk to strangers" while waving strangers into your home. Kids are not dumb and they will catch onto it sooner or later. As for Peirce well you know I dont know that he has anything to lose or if he has everything to lose. I frankly cannot imagine since he already had portrayed himself as a child's advocate why jeaopardize the publicity already raised from this event to advertise his cause. If he is an opportunist then he is a dumb one. He could have left it as it was, and had his name known. So to me, he has no reason to lie, unless like I said he is an idiot. As for life insurance on children. I have AlWAYS been offered life insurance for my kids. Anyone who has had a baby in the past 15 or so yrs probably was hit up to enroll their child in the gerber insurance program. I know I was, all 4 times. In fact my youngest is two yrs old and I still get the paperwork once a mth from their mailing list since my name was sold to their firm after I had my baby. I am sure all of u with kids have seen the ad. The gerber baby face, and a statement saying "Enroll your child now for one $1 for the first month". Or "Cover your child for pennys a day". No it is not for a ton of money, it is for a slight amount to god forbid cover funeral and other expenses. However it can mature to 25k. There are also certain stipulations to collecting the higher amount. At 18 kids with gerber coverage can use that money towards college,therefore you can even buy MORE insurance if the mood were to strike you to insure their college education. did they have insurance? Who cares? A child is dead and the only thing that matters is catching the right person. If it is westerfield then he is where he should be. If there are other parties involved then they need to find them. if the parents are involved then they also need to be brought to justice. I suspect in the coming months when the trial hits many more answers will be known. Anyways i have posted enough already LOL. Sorry for the novel.

[Slyfox]

You know, Pierce's conjecture is interesting on a number of points. The open door when Brenda and the other floozies got home. Daniel VD aloofness from the get go. Maybe his wife was having an affair with Westerfield. Maybe Daniel "liked" his daughter. Maybe "it" got out of hand. Maybe he placed Danielle in the unlocked motorhome. These are really sick thoughts and I apologize for having them. Whoever did this to Danielle must pay for what they did. I just hope they get the right person.

One more thing. God designed human sexuality to be contained inside a marriage. Self-contained. Not open as to allow Bob, Ted, Carol, Alice, Adam and Steve free access to everybody elses genitals. What woman in her right mind would "offer" another woman to her husband? These people nauseate me.

[DoughtyOne]

It's important that we know what's on the table in this case.  I think we all have our suspicions.  It will be interesting how this plays out.  I do want justice for the child.  Now I know a lot of us have quite a bit of contempt for the Van Dams, me included.  I do think it's important to keep somewhat of an open mind.  That's hard because as far as I am concerned their negligence and sexual self-interests played in to this heavily.  All this being said, I want the Van Dams blamed for only what they truly did, an not for what we think they may have done.  I know which way all of us are leaning, including me, but I think we should await the trial and full disclosure (I hope) of the evidence.

Thanks for the ping.