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Bombers Gloating in Gaza as They See Goal Within Reach: No More Israel
New York Times ^ | April 3, 2002 | JOEL BRINKLEY

Posted on 04/03/2002 10:43:16 PM PST by Prodigal Son

GAZA, April 3 — The leaders of Hamas, the militant Islamic movement responsible for the most deadly suicide attacks in Israel in the last week, are pleased and satisfied just now.

"Our spirit is high, our mood is good," said Ismail Abu Shanab, one of the organization's leaders.

If Israel attacks Gaza, as it has areas of the West Bank, he and the other leaders would likely be principal targets. For now, they live and operate here openly.

By their estimation, the organization's two recent attacks — the one at a Seder on Passover night in a Netanya hotel that killed 25 people, and the other in a Haifa cafe that killed 15 — were the most successful they have ever made. That is true partly, Mr. Shanab said, because Hamas is now using weapons-grade explosives instead of home made bombs manufactured using fertilizer, a fact the Israelis have confirmed.

"Forty were killed and 200 injured — in just two operations," another of the leaders, Mahmoud al-Zahar, said with a smile.

What's more, Hamas believes that the Palestinian Authority has given up on negotiating with Israel, negotiations that Hamas virulently opposed. That has led to a budding alliance between Hamas and Fatah, the organization headed by Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, despite years of bitter and sometimes violent feuding.

Mr. Arafat "is Palestinian and I am Palestinian," said Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of Hamas. "We have the same problem now. Israel is our enemy."

Sammy Abu Samhadanah, a Fatah commander here, said Hamas was carrying out attacks "because they did not want a peace agreement.

"But now," he added, "we have a common enemy."

Hamas, the second most popular Palestinian movement, behind Fatah, is directed by a "steering committee," as Dr. Zahar put it, with five principal members. Interviews with four of them — a cleric, an engineer and two medical doctors — showed a leadership unyielding, determined and increasingly confident of achieving their goal, the eradication of Israel as a Jewish state.

They are almost welcoming of the Israeli attacks in the West Bank because they believe that the military campaign will generate more recruits for Hamas. Already, the leaders say, they have more than enough recruits for suicide attacks.

The political leaders, as they call themselves, are obviously prosperous and live in large, comfortable homes here in Gaza City with big families. The exception is Sheik Yassin, who uses a wheelchair and lives in a compound in the slums of the city with guards, assistants and office workers. Dr. Zahar, a surgeon, has a table tennis set in his vast living room, for his seven children. All of them offer their opinions in calm, cheerful tones suggesting that they view their positions as unremarkable.

The leaders insist that they are not involved in directing specific attacks. But they say they do decide when their followers should attack and when they should back off. Last fall, just after Sept. 11, the steering committee decided that "our resistance in Israel might be confused with what was happened in the U.S.," said Mr. Abu Shanab, the engineer. So the suicide bombing and other attacks were stopped.

"It lasted three weeks," said Abdel Aziz Rantisi, the fourth leader. But then after a particularly bloody day in Gaza during which Israelis killed several Palestinians, Dr. Rantisi added, the attacks resumed. On Oct. 3, gunmen burst into an Israeli settlement in Gaza, Alei Sinai, where they shot and killed a young couple and wounded 15 others. Hamas took responsibility.

Dr. Rantisi, who appears in public more often than any of the others, said that, to generate attacks, he makes public statements that are heard by his followers, as he did recently when he said in a television interview: "The gates of resistance are open totally." Those statements are heard by Hamas's military wing, he says, "and they listen because we are the political leaders."

Some analysts here suggest that the leaders' roles are actually more direct. During the 45-minute interview in Sheik Yassin's compound, for example, aides twice brought him urgent news about developments in Ramallah, and he issued clear, direct orders.

The goals of Hamas are straightforward. As Sheik Yassin put it, "our equation does not focus on a cease-fire; our equation focuses on an end to the occupation." By that he means an end to the Jewish occupation of historical Palestine.

Hamas wants Israeli withdrawal from all of the West Bank and Gaza, the dismantling of all Israeli settlements and full right of return for the four million Palestinians who live in other states. After that, the Jews could remain, living "in an Islamic state with Islamic law," Dr. Zahar said. "From our ideological point of view, it is not allowed to recognize that Israel controls one square meter of historic Palestine."

Mr. Shenab insisted that he was not joking when he said, "There are a lot of open areas in the United States that could absorb the Jews."

The Hamas leaders are clearly enamored of the suicide attacks carried out by their followers. "It is the most effective strategy for us," said Dr. Rantisi. "For us it is the same as their F-16," the attack fighters used by the Israeli military.

For them, the crowning achievement so far was the attack on Passover eve.

"That was a great success," said Mr. Shenab. "We don't have an army, but we showed that one person can do more than an army — and in the middle of a big alert by the Israelis." That night, the Israeli police and the military were on full alert to stop suicide bombers. "That showed that if we suffer, our enemy suffers more," he added.

Sheik Yassin said: "The Palestinian people are not the same as they were in 1967," when Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza, "or during the first intifada," from 1987 to 1991. "At that time nobody knew how to make explosives.

"But now," he added, "everybody knows, and Israel will never be stable again."

On the night of the Passover attack, Dr. Zahar released a statement saying it was intended in part to shut down the cease-fire negotiations then under way, directed by Gen. Anthony C. Zinni, the American special envoy.

In the interview today, Dr. Zahar explained, "the Zinni mission was bad for us" because, under the proposed terms of the cease-fire, groups like Hamas would be disarmed and their leaders arrested.

"Besides," Dr. Rantisi said, "we in Hamas believe peace talks will do no good. We do not believe we can live with the enemy."

The budding alliance with Mr. Arafat's Fatah faction does not mean that Hamas and Fatah will carry out attacks together, just that they will not interfere with each other. In the past, Fatah security officials have occasionally arrested Hamas members at the behest of the Israeli government; Dr. Zahar points to bullet holes in his living room ceiling that were left following one assault by Fatah forces.

"But now," said Mr. Abu Samhadanah, the Fatah commander, "we are not going to arrest them."

Mr. Shanab said: "We disagree with Fatah on the legitimate right of return of our refugees and many other things.

"But for now, we are going to postpone those problems."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel; terrorism
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"Forty were killed and 200 injured — in just two operations," another of the leaders, Mahmoud al-Zahar, said with a smile.

God forbid if I were in power there. I would... Have his lower jaw surgically removed and then I'd let his smiling a$$ go.

1 posted on 04/03/2002 10:43:16 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
God forbid if I were in power there. I would... Have his lower jaw surgically removed and then I'd let his smiling a$$ go.

A shotgun would be faster.

2 posted on 04/03/2002 10:47:22 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
There are surgical shotguns, what do you think SWAT teams use for their "surgical" strikes?
3 posted on 04/03/2002 10:48:06 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: firebrand; evilC; StarFan; Dutchy; RaceBannon; n.y.muggs; stanz; OneidaM; Cacique; Black Agnes...
FYI
4 posted on 04/03/2002 10:52:02 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Prodigal Son
The Free World cannot allow Hamas to suceed. This is bigger than just Isreal. I think it is time to dust off a couple of Daisy Cutters and let the Pallies know just how nasty things can get if they don't back down.
5 posted on 04/03/2002 10:53:29 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Prodigal Son
The $64,000 mystery question is why Israel hasn't eliminated the Hamas and Islamic Jihad leadership and infrastructure... yet.
6 posted on 04/03/2002 10:56:21 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: Prodigal Son
Why is Sharon still allowing these people to respire?
7 posted on 04/03/2002 10:57:49 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: Prodigal Son
I have a feeling FR's pro-Palie useful idiots will not visit this thread.
8 posted on 04/03/2002 11:00:16 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: Prodigal Son
And how can they be gloating when Israel is arresting dozens of wanted terrorists?

Hamas has shown it can kill a few Jews at a time. Israel has shown it can invade and crush the Palestinians in a matter of days. Right-wingers are gloating because this means the end of the PNA, or at least the end of Arafat, with someone like Rajoub taking control of the PNA.

9 posted on 04/03/2002 11:01:12 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Prodigal Son;yehuda
you know, ive been thinking about this..

every one of those dirt eating murdering scumbags
that either blows himself up, or gets shot by the
israeli police in the process has accomplished his whole goal in life...
their whole mission here is to die as a martyr..
perhaps israel needs to try a new tactic.

instead of just shooting them, catch and disable them.. give them a short relaxing stay at the hospital..
amputate their arms and legs, and send them back to their families.
10 posted on 04/03/2002 11:02:19 PM PST by wafflehouse
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To: The Great Satan
What is needed in the Middle East is a all out war. A war that ultimately destroys Islamic civilization. I truly believe it, or the world will never be safe again.
11 posted on 04/03/2002 11:06:47 PM PST by Derechista
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To: Derechista
"Islamic civilization"? Isn't that an oxymoron?
12 posted on 04/03/2002 11:07:46 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: Paleo Conservative
A shotgun would be faster.

Aye, so it would. But imagine every day for the rest of your life waking up, looking in the mirror and having no lower jaw- just your tongue sticking out at you...

How the media even begin to kid themselves that the Palestinian "Heroes" are anything like you and I is beyond me. (I know how that sounds- given my above statement) They state it clearly that they won't be happy until there is no Israel. The are quite happy with themselves for perpetrating mass murder.

Imagine that Osama bin Laden lived in Philadelphia. Daily or at the very least- weekly, he sent his minions out to slaughter dozens and dozens of our citizens. Yet the entire world's combined media lauded him for his efforts. Imagine Bush sent the SWAT teams/military in to get him and suddenly citizens of Australia, Ireland and Brazil showed up to form human shields to protect bin Laden. Imagine the terrorist free on the streets of Philly, getting press conferences, taunting the US; saying he won't stop until all Americans are killed. Imagine the Nobel Peace Prize Committee gives him the Peace Prize for his efforts and every UN resolution is in his favor. THAT is what is happening in Israel and it is the great travesty of our times.

The West is worshipping a Charlie Manson-like "Peace Prize" Winner who is uglier than a camel's scrotum in Ramallah. I need a vacation.

13 posted on 04/03/2002 11:10:15 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Read this - WILLIAM SAFIRE
14 posted on 04/03/2002 11:10:38 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Prodigal Son
Read this - WILLIAM SAFIRE
15 posted on 04/03/2002 11:10:38 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Prodigal Son
Read this - WILLIAM SAFIRE
16 posted on 04/03/2002 11:10:42 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Prodigal Son
Bombers Gloating in Gaza as They See Goal Within Reach: No More Israel

....Really?..........I hear it told a different way, and it goes something like, "no more Moon God worshipping terrorists, they meet their Master in the End"........oh well, maybe that's just me..........;)

17 posted on 04/03/2002 11:11:26 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: The Great Satan
LOL...my mistake. It's funny the "Islam is peace" crowd point to the "Golden age" of Islamic "Civilization", while Europe was in the dark ages, the truth is most of the Islamic scholars, scientists, astronomers, etc.. at the time actually leaned toward secularism. The reason the Golden Age in Islamic world became possible was because the rulers in those days were more secular than religious and they tolerated the great minds who in turned contributed to science and made the Golden Age a reality. Islam is the greatest danger to the world...PERIOD.
18 posted on 04/03/2002 11:15:18 PM PST by Derechista
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To: Prodigal Son

19 posted on 04/03/2002 11:16:44 PM PST by freedom9
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To: america-rules
Very interesting. Reinforces my inference that, as far as Dubya is concerned, removing Saddam is the end game, and everything must be subordinated to that. Also, good point by Sharon on the oil. If Bush-Cheney were really in the pockets of the "Oil Bidness," as the leftists would have us believe, the first thing they would do is throw Israel to the wolves.
20 posted on 04/03/2002 11:17:33 PM PST by The Great Satan
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