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Voter ID proposal called slap at poor
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 4/04/02 | Eunice Moscoso

Posted on 04/04/2002 4:16:58 AM PST by madprof98

Washington --- A coalition of civil rights and liberal advocacy groups Wednesday urged Congress to drop a proposed rule to require first-time voters to show a picture identification at the voting booth.

"This is a giant step in the wrong direction," Raul Yzaguirre said at a rally near the Supreme Court. Yzaguirre is president of the Hispanic civil rights group the National Council of La Raza.

"There are lots of people who can't get a driver's license," he said. "If you're from out of state, if you're paralyzed, if you have a physical problem, if you're blind, if you're incapacitated in some way, if you don't want to drive."

Yzaguirre and other protesters said the ID requirement would make voting more difficult for minorities, poor people, disabled Americans and students. They are less likely to have a state-issued driver's license or ID, which can cost about $30 and often requires proof of residency, which some of them do not have.

"Democrats and Republicans should be working to make it easier for Latinos to vote, not harder," Yzaguirre said.

The ID requirement, which would apply to voters who register by mail, was added to a major voting reform bill in an effort to reduce voter fraud. But opposition to the measure has put the bill's future in jeopardy.

The groups at the rally --- including the League of Women Voters and the American Civil Liberties Union --- said they support many provisions in the overall bill, such as providing $3.5 billion to states over five years to modernize voting systems, train election workers and educate voters. In addition, the bill would require each state to develop a statewide computerized voter registration list by 2004.

The legislation was crafted after the 2000 presidential election, which was marred by voting disputes in Florida.

According to a study by the Civil Rights Commission, minority voters were disproportionately --- and sometimes unfairly --- turned away from the polls. Many Democrats claim that cost Al Gore the presidency.

"Studies have shown that over 6 million Americans across our nation were disenfranchised in the November 2000 election," NAACP Washington director Hilary Shelton said. "Our patience has run thin. It has been 17 months. . . . We need to pass comprehensive election reform legislation as soon as possible."

Shelton and other speakers were joined by about 70 people, some in wheelchairs, carrying colorful signs with slogans such as, "I don't drive but I want to vote" and "Let's make it easier to vote, not harder."

Del McNeil, executive director of the Paralyzed Veterans of America, said the requirement for a photo ID would have "a catastrophic and unacceptable" effect on people with disabilities.

"The vast majority are dependent on others for transportation," he said.

Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, ranking Democratic member of the House Judiciary Committee, told the crowd to lobby Congress aggressively to change the bill and to pass it, a task he equated to "herding puppies."

"The last inning is the most important," he said. "When we win, all America will thank us."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: votefraud
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Only recently did Georgia begin asking for ID at the polls. Until lately, anyone could go in, sign a form, and vote in the name of his/her choice. Most of the registered voters in my own precinct are elderly, poor and marginally literate. I suspect many of them--maybe even most of them--stay on the rolls because someone else has been voting for them for a long, long time.
1 posted on 04/04/2002 4:16:58 AM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
Maybe the poor shouldn't be voting... just a thought...
2 posted on 04/04/2002 4:29:11 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: madprof98
Personnally, I think that it isn't wrong to require the showing of a valid ID before every vote. The only ones who object to this are the ones who are trying to pull something illegal.
3 posted on 04/04/2002 4:31:01 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: madprof98
BS. Every state issues a non-driving ID.
4 posted on 04/04/2002 4:31:15 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: madprof98
How do poor prove their identity when applying for welfare, is that a slap too?
5 posted on 04/04/2002 4:31:18 AM PST by boomop1
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To: madprof98
Thanks for posting. The idea that proof of eligiblity to vote is offensive is an indicator of just how little the Democrats think of our democratic system ... which they use and abuse to maintain power.
6 posted on 04/04/2002 4:32:18 AM PST by mgc1122
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To: madprof98
You know, this is nuts.

You can't write a check at the grocery store without showing ID. You can't use your credit card at Best Buy without showing ID.

But it's somehow wrong to require voters to prove who they are at the polls by showing proper ID? Whatever they are smoking, pass it! No, wait. I don't do that anymore. Anyway, it must be some gooooood stuff!

7 posted on 04/04/2002 4:32:41 AM PST by rdb3
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Maybe the poor shouldn't be voting... just a thought...

I have thought for a loooong time that only taxpayers should be able to vote.
8 posted on 04/04/2002 4:35:32 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: madprof98
Fair and balanced, presenting both sides of the discussion without any slant or bias at all.

I especially like that John Conyers, the American Civil Liberties Union, and the NAACP, all well known for their bi-partisan approach to legislation, were consulted for their in-depth analysis on the issue.

9 posted on 04/04/2002 4:36:27 AM PST by Cable225
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To: madprof98
If you're from out of state-or an illegal alien, transported to the polls, and told who to vote for, it's...it's...just ghastly to iinterfere with your non-citizenship !!
10 posted on 04/04/2002 4:37:45 AM PST by genefromjersey
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To: AppyPappy
BS. Every state issues a non-driving ID.

As I recall, many states require you to have a photo ID.

11 posted on 04/04/2002 4:37:59 AM PST by X-USAF
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Yeah, no kidding... Allowing people who don't pay taxes to vote, allows people who don't pay taxes to vote for tax increases for those of us who DO pay taxes... It used to be just property owners who could vote, and personally, I thought the justification was well-thought out... now look at the mess we are in...
12 posted on 04/04/2002 4:38:13 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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They are less likely to have a state-issued driver's license or ID, which can cost about $30 and often requires proof of residency, which some of them do not have.

Just so.

13 posted on 04/04/2002 4:39:10 AM PST by FairWitness
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This is the usual bullsh*t from the Atlanta Constitution and its allies.

EVERY state has procedures for people who cannot get a drivers license (elderly, blind, uninsurable, etc.) to get a state ID that is also issued by the DMV. Anyone who writes a check for $20 for milk, eggs and butter at the Piggly Wiggly must show either a drivers license or a state ID to do that.

Asking voters to show ID of SOME type is not discrimination against the poor. It is "discrimination" against fraudulent "voters." And they have it coming.

This is a typical example of the writers and editors of the Constitution not bothering to think before they print something. But that's typical. I think it's a requirement in the Style Manual for this particular newspaper.

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14 posted on 04/04/2002 4:40:18 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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Shelton and other speakers were joined by about 70 people, some in wheelchairs, carrying colorful signs with slogans such as, "I don't drive but I want to vote" and "Let's make it easier to vote, not harder."

So, they were able to get to this rally for a photo op, but claim it is too difficult to get a photo ID to vote?

15 posted on 04/04/2002 4:43:52 AM PST by FairWitness
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To: rdb3
Whatever they are smoking, pass it!

(singing...) I said no, no, no, no I don't smoke it no more; I'm tired of wakin' up on the floor...

no thank you please, it only makes me wheeze; and then it makes it hard to find the door!

16 posted on 04/04/2002 4:44:59 AM PST by JimRed
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Maybe the poor shouldn't be voting... just a thought...

I think you should get one vote for every dollar of taxes you pay. This could solve two problems, voting and tax collection.

17 posted on 04/04/2002 4:45:01 AM PST by Lockbox
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"There are lots of people who can't get a driver's license," he said. "If you're from out of state, if you're paralyzed, if you have a physical problem, if you're blind, if you're incapacitated in some way, if you don't want to drive."

Doofus. One can also get a picture ID (non-driver's license) from the state at any DMV. Methinks you don't know enough about America to have a voice in any decision making.

18 posted on 04/04/2002 4:45:58 AM PST by Junior
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To: JimRed
and then it makes it hard to find the door!

Unless you're a RAT finding the door to the voting booths!

19 posted on 04/04/2002 4:51:14 AM PST by rdb3
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To: Chad Fairbanks
While there is alot to be said for bringing some sort of "feedback loop" into the voting process, the real solution is not to prevent non tax payers from voting, but to prevent them from being non tax payers with something like the flat tax.
The best idea is one where the responsibilty for decision making is as decentralized as possible. And limiting voting rights is too easy for those who would corrupt it.
20 posted on 04/04/2002 4:52:33 AM PST by tcostell
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