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flip flop Israel and US........

April 4-The UN, led by Amercians best friend Israel who is at war with terrorist in Aghanistan, voted 15-0 for the US to halt its military action to destroy the terrorist infrastructure that is attacking them daily. Sharon, which supported the action until today, flip flopped and called for the US to stop its mission. However he also put pressure on OBL to end the suicide attacks. However OBL has broken 10 cease fires the past 18 months. Sharon is sending his prime minister to the States to try to broker yet another cease fire. in the mean time the US found documents with ObL's personaly aprroving funding for the terrorist operations.. Once again today's headlines Israel calls for the US to stop its military operation to destroy the terrorist infrastructure and called for OBL once agian to stop the attacks........in other News Israel continued its war against terrorism today by attacking targets with b-52's and ac-130 gunships, they were some civilian deaths............

1 posted on 04/04/2002 4:36:22 PM PST by newsperson999
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To: newsperson999
I'll tell you what would happen. Jorge Bush and the liberal media would STILL be trying to convince us that Islam is a religion of peace...
2 posted on 04/04/2002 4:40:04 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: newsperson999
That was a very good post.

What troubles me is that it seems all but the US is Anti-Israel, and Pro arafat.

That includes the media here in the US.

WHY?

3 posted on 04/04/2002 4:41:33 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: newsperson999
Hand out small pox blankets? Oh you mean today? Well, we keep our untermenschen in reservations right?
6 posted on 04/04/2002 4:42:33 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: newsperson999
what do you think the US would do if this happened since 1993 to the US

For starters, America would have the sense not to turn everyone in the world against us by constantly shaking everyone down for reparations, smearing entire countries and playing victim to the point where billions of people don't want anything to do with us.

7 posted on 04/04/2002 4:47:06 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: newsperson999
To get a better effect, multiply all casualty figures by 52, roughly the ratio of U.S. population to Israeli population. Then ask the same questions.
8 posted on 04/04/2002 4:49:36 PM PST by Chemist_Geek
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To: newsperson999
This is not a good question, because US action would have prevented future terrorist attacks after the first few. There is a "balance of terror" in this country. If anyone tried to terrorize us, patriotic but deranged individuals would act against their communities. Just look at the attacks on mosques here. There have been very few attacks, because the American government is good at catching criminals and discouraging these attacks, but if the Muslims continued to attack us, and refused to condemn the attacks, they would be attacked in spades here. Hate crimes would go through the roof. Mosques would be shot and burned. Even if the Muslims attacked nobody but Jews, the vast majority of "counter-hate crimes" would be carried out by non-Jews. Good ol' boys protect the liberal yuppies by threatening to git medieval on random Muslims. We live in a sick world, we've got to make the best of it, and having a "balance of terror"(TM) is one way to get by.

This is not to say that I support hate crimes, most of the time they serve no purpose. But if a bunch of French mosques were to go up in flames, it might send the Arabs over there a message, "burn a synagogue, lose a mosque." And then they just might QUIT IT. Just look at the violence in India. Since the Hindus went on a rampage, murdering hundreds of Muslim civilians, the incidence of train-burning massacres has dropped by approximately 100%. Muslims know there is a direct cost to them associated with terrorism, which means they are less likely to support it.

The balance of terror does not seem to work so well in a place like Israel, where Muslims already feel they've lost everything, and that they have no hope (or, conversely, that they think the terror is working, and that it's their best hope). Bush needs to speak more about Palestinians not achieving statehood if they refuse to stop the terror, that would get their attention very, very, very quickly.

9 posted on 04/04/2002 4:50:03 PM PST by xm177e2
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Since Billybob was in charge back then, I shudder to think. I suspect he would have sent Maddy Notsobright to Hamas with our checkbook and a message of "peace" to all the terrorists who are angry with us supposedly because of their poverty.
13 posted on 04/04/2002 4:56:37 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: newsperson999
BTTT and bookmarked for a later reading.
14 posted on 04/04/2002 5:00:11 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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19 posted on 04/04/2002 5:05:43 PM PST by Bob J
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To: newsperson999
clintoon's Koolaid drinkers would have stuck their heads further up his a$$ and pretended it wasn't happening and when they finally did admit it, they would blame the U.S.
20 posted on 04/04/2002 5:06:26 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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Put the Democrooks, Gephart, Daschle, Gore, Clinton, etc. in charge and call the terrorist dirty names.
23 posted on 04/04/2002 5:21:38 PM PST by Joee
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Need you ask? I still say all these terrorist organizations are connected and help each other. I also think Bush waffeling is to stall other countries so Israel has time to get a handle on this situation. Israel is getting lots of info and seems to be keeping us informed. What I am stuck on is why so much of the world supports terrorists.
26 posted on 04/04/2002 5:34:35 PM PST by dalebert
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To: newsperson999
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
 
Since the U.S. is 50 times as large as Israel, you first have to multiply the number of incidents by fifty.

27 posted on 04/04/2002 5:37:14 PM PST by john in missouri
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If this happened in MY country: I would personally have hunted Arafat down and shot him like a dog in the street.
34 posted on 04/04/2002 5:56:46 PM PST by cutlass
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Since 1993... well, we had a ME terrorist plot to plant a bomb in the LA International Airport, and we didn't do anything but arrest the guy. There were no repercussions for his bosses overseas. We had a bomb go off in the WTC the first time, but fortunately the cyanide part of their plan didn't work. We arrested some of those involved but there was no death penalty and not much reaction from the US. That led to the embassy bombings overr in Africa, done because we dared to hold their muslim cleric prisoner over the WTC attack. We pretty much did nothing about those attacks either, firing off a few cruise missiles at empty camps.

We have had pipe bomb assasinations of Muslim moderates in the US by a group called al-Fuqra, related to a bigger terror group out of Pakistan. There was an American journalist investigating terrorism in America who was threatened with a fatwa, etc., but nothing could be done because the US really didn't want to admit it had a problem. The Us offered the guy an opening in the Witness Protection if he was willing to change identity, but told the guy he could just quit investigating the terrorists and the fatwas might go away. An airliner goes into the drink after Islamic groups threatened to take down an airliner during the Olympics in Atlanta, and the US treats it like an isolated incident... it doesn't look too accidental and the Arab-American supporters initiate and spread some conspiracy theories about it being shot down by the USN.

The phillippines expose a plot which sounds remarkably similar to those of 9/11. OK City, a center for Islamic terrorist meetings and groups becomes the victim of a "right wing" bomber who "didn't have Iraqi links"- or did he? And the US is thickly infiltrated by Islamic radical groups who use out liberties to fund murder overseas and here at home, and to propagandize shrilly about the Jooos and the Great Satan itself, and to link with American aryan hate groups over US ME policy.

This sort of thing has been happening for YEARS with little if any response from the US. If anything, investigation into American Islamic terrorist groups was sharply curtailed by the Clinton Administration, all the while the US energy department and other parts of the US government were funding internet access, Anti-American newspapers (yes, we pay for those PA newspapers, folks!), cell phone projects and electricity projects in palestinian territory so that they could better conduct terrorism. Wecalled it "humanitarian aid." The US probably BOUGHT Arafat and Hamas and all their other terrorist buddies those cell phones and computers they use to coordinate attacks and to defame the US in the press.

And now the world calls anti-terrorists "terrorists and occupiers" but won't call a terrorist a terrorist because the world still has a fantasy that a terrorist won't behave like a terrorist if we all pretend he is not a terrorist so as to not hurt not-quite-a-terrorist feelings and cause them to do more not-quite-terrosistic acts. We will treat the biggest not-quite-a-terrorist like he is merely a distinguished diplomat of a "not-quite-a-terrorist" terrorist-like fantasyland full of other people we will pretend are not-quite-supporters of terrorists because if we admitted they were terrorists and terrorist supporters we would have to admit we are willing to negotiate with terrorists and would have to admit that the line about supporting a terrorist making you a terrorist was really not meant to appley to people who are terrorists. So we must continue to tell lourselves they are not terrorists but are merely "armed, unusually persistant late term abortionists" and "practitioners of involuntary euthenasia" who need a place where they can freely conduct "involuntary euthenasia" against both people they will call citizens and people who have the good fortune of cashing in on the deal while eating pizza and minding their own business. The not-quite-terrorists need a safe haven from which they can manage their "late term abortion services" to the Israelis and where unappreciative customers cannot send any of those dreaded Israeli "complaint letters." We know the not-quite-terrorists occasionally make human meat by-products for fun and profit but never because it is the nature of terrorists to blow up other people. Why? Because terrorists would never create such a separatist state where they could harbor and nurture more not-quite-terrorists and where they could abuse and brainwash more people like themselves to "generously give of themselves" and "distribute free nails and scrap metal" to ungrateful Israelis. Would they?

Whew. Now, does anyone remember if bin Laden was a not-quite-a-terrorist or if he was just a terrorist? Was he a not-quite-a-terrorist and Americans are just not appreciative of his efforts to deal with population control in the US with free, unusually late late-term abortion services and unusually early euthanasia programs? Or was he a terrorist because he was not an Arab palestinian but merely an Arab non-palestinian? Can palestinian leaders be terrorists or do they haves some sort of in-built resistance to being terrorists when they behave like them in every way? Does the Saudi bin Laden have such a resistance and it wore off, or, do non-palestinians have such resistance at all? Was bin Laden a terrorist because his targets were American business people but not just people attending a bat Mitzvah? What is a terrorist? I'm not so sure anymore.

35 posted on 04/04/2002 6:00:06 PM PST by piasa
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Bump
41 posted on 04/05/2002 8:39:17 PM PST by Valin
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