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Teachers union power grab is coming to vote soon
Sacramento Bee ^ | April 4, 2002 | Daniel Weintraub

Posted on 04/04/2002 4:38:03 PM PST by Cultural Jihad

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:34:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A radical bill with the potential to halt California's progress toward accountability in the public schools is inching its way to a hearing in the state Assembly. And the members who will be the first to vote on the measure are starting to feel the heat.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: educationnews
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1 posted on 04/04/2002 4:38:03 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Lizavetta; T. P. Pole; anniegetyourgun; upchuck; scholar; LarryLied; moyden; LasVegasMac; quimby...
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2 posted on 04/04/2002 4:43:04 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
I hope for the sake of all public school kids in California that there are enough RATS in the statehouse with at least some sense of decency to defeat this monstrous bill.
3 posted on 04/04/2002 4:49:44 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: Cultural Jihad
Teachers are confused. They think they are the employers, not the employees.
4 posted on 04/04/2002 4:54:46 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
It's a union thing, autoworkers are the same way.
5 posted on 04/04/2002 4:57:17 PM PST by Dakmar
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To: Dakmar
Those in California might find this of value:

California Federation of Teachers 2002 Education Agenda

6 posted on 04/04/2002 4:59:26 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: Cultural Jihad
They fear that the next step might be holding individual teachers accountable for their students' performance.

Aw shucks--most of us are held accountable every day on our jobs, but these prima donnas are supposed to be exempt from accountability, when they are in charge of our most precious possessions.

I say, home school or find a way to send your child to a private school, Christian school--whatever. There may be some good public schools, but I fear they are few and far between.

7 posted on 04/04/2002 5:09:37 PM PST by scholar
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To: *Education News
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8 posted on 04/04/2002 5:12:22 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: LarryLied
They think they are the employers, not the employees.

Excellent point! Where do these egomaniacs come off thinking that they know better than anyone. Has anyone on this thread heard or read about how a significant number of teachers can't pass basic skills tests themselves?--it is frightening!

9 posted on 04/04/2002 5:14:27 PM PST by scholar
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To: Cultural Jihad
BUMP
10 posted on 04/04/2002 5:16:43 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: Cultural Jihad
Strom-Martin represents my district and is term limited out. A liberal from Eureka (Patty Berg) is running against Bob Brown R from Sonoma. Brown was just declared the winner against Tim Stoen R due to a slow count of absentee ballots in Sonoma County. You may remember Stoen was the Attorney for Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple debacle. (drink your koolaid now) I'm not sure of Stoens culpability in that mess.
11 posted on 04/04/2002 5:17:11 PM PST by tubebender
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To: Dakmar; LarryLied; scholar; Fish out of Water; GrandMoM; tubebender;

Left unsaid in the editorial is the fact that Carole Migden is a lesbian. The childless radical homosexual lobby in California believes they know what's better for children than their parents do. God gives children to parents, not to lesbian legislators and leftist, moral-liberal teachers. It is the sole right of parents to decide what their children are taught, not perverts, educrats, and the doctors of the soft sciences.

12 posted on 04/04/2002 5:24:50 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: LarryLied
What a laugh that was. Yup, the average engineer probably makes significantly more than the average teacher.

I was an engineering graduate. I remember taking a class in a room in the Education college. During part of the semester, they had a significant portion of the class they were holding in the room devoted to "how to cut out paper dolls". Apparently it's a college level skill.

I suppose it was a good backdrop for my Heat Transfer class. Put things in perspective. Like, why I made so much more than they did when I graduated.

13 posted on 04/04/2002 5:25:53 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Nobody would think if you're an auto mechanic you're going to ask for input from the neighborhood.

Outrageous. What she's suggesting is rather like saying that people who have their cars fixed should have no say in how they're fixed. If the auto mechanic wants to put on plastic lug nuts instead of metal, you'll like it... or else.

14 posted on 04/04/2002 5:30:46 PM PST by john in missouri
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To: scholar
Where do these egomaniacs come off thinking that they know better than anyone.

It does not even occur to them that they have no business deciding where kids should go to school, who should be hired to teach or what material should be taught. Ever check out http://teachers.net/chatboard/? The banality and arrogance of their comments takes your breath away.

Btw..no need to register to post or reply. That forum could use some voices of sanity.

15 posted on 04/04/2002 5:34:15 PM PST by LarryLied
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**Ping**
16 posted on 04/04/2002 6:04:02 PM PST by TwoStep
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To: Cultural Jihad;homeschool mama;argee;khepera
The teachers union is a totalitarian aristocracy which seeks to be a power unto itself.

Let's leave Microsoft alone, and break up the NEA and the AFT.

17 posted on 04/04/2002 6:22:58 PM PST by The Giant Apricots
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To: The Giant Apricots
Is there any way the rest of the United States could throw California out of the Union, their just going to drag us down with them. Hell they could just call their new country Aztlan or whatever it is, kill two birds with one stone.
18 posted on 04/04/2002 6:33:35 PM PST by Husker24
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To: LarryLied
I keep telling you; teacher unions, academics, the school employee unions, state employee unions, state certification boards, politicals, ect all work hand-in-hand to achieve their goals. Money for teachers equates to power for politicians and so on.

Bush wants to be the education president and the federal money further corrupts the system. They spend 24,000 per special needs students in my district. The school district wants more and more special ed students; $$$$$$. They do away with regular ed teaching positions and continue to expand special ed programs.

Freepers all say it's turning around but from what I see, its heading the other direction. School districts are so addicted to the federal funds and without huge property tax increases; you'll never wean them off.

Eventually, it will become so bad that everyone will cry for federalization. That's their ultimate dream.

Seriously, you best believe the teacher unions control the direction of education way more than all the repubs in America. I'm a teacher, registered repub, and my district is going to have a strike this august; go figure. We need more conservative teachers.

19 posted on 04/04/2002 6:36:50 PM PST by Eska
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To: Cultural Jihad
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20 posted on 04/04/2002 7:41:53 PM PST by EdReform
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