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5 posted on 04/05/2002 11:13:31 AM PST by madfly
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6 posted on 04/05/2002 11:16:52 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
Hmmm... So let's see... Young Americans can now join our armed forces wanting to "serve their country" (as I did), be used as cannon-fodder in some unconstitutional "police action" that we shouldn't even be involved in, and then end up in some foreign prison (or worse) because they broke some regulation or "international law" that they in all likelyhood weren't even advised on (such as shooting back when coming under fire).

Boy, that's going to inspire a lot of volunteers.


8 posted on 04/05/2002 11:31:10 AM PST by Joe Brower
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9 posted on 04/05/2002 12:58:30 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: madfly; BigWest
...signatures from 60 nations will suffice to authorize creation of the international court...

Charter of the United Nations
CHAPTER XVIII
AMENDMENTS

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Article 108

Amendments to the present Charter shall come into force for all Members of the United Nations when they have been adopted by a vote of two thirds of the members of the General Assembly and ratified in accordance with their respective constitutional processes by two thirds of the Members of the United Nations, including all the permanent members of the Security Council.

click here for UN charter link

Clinton, by signing the UN treaty, allowed the UN Court to be born, according to the UN charter. Permanent member of the UN Security Council have veto powers and can stop any amendment. The Court was not inevitable until Clinton signed the treaty.

As long as we are in the UN, this part of the Constitution:
He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur

is superceded by this part:
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

Constitution link

The balance created by our founding fathers is negated. The president has power to create any law he wishes through the UN regardless of the Senate's wishes.

Get the US out of the UN.

10 posted on 04/05/2002 5:45:55 PM PST by jadimov
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"UN bureaucrats don't care whether our Senate ratifies the ICC treaty or not," Paul stated. "The Clinton administration signed the treaty, and the UN views the signature as final. It arrogantly announced that signatures from 60 nations will suffice to authorize creation of the international court. Paul's resolution calls for President Bush to declare that the U.S. does not intend to ratify or assent to the ICC treaty.

Bump.

11 posted on 04/05/2002 6:44:23 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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