[Sir Gawain]

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[Alberta's Child]

Government schools aren't such a bad thing. Home-schooled children are goiong to need a large pool of people to work for them when they grow up, aren't they?

[don-o]

Top notch!!!

HS bump.

[Aurelius]

BUMP

[tcostell]

Political candidates on all levels, and from both major parties, continually trumpet the need for more tax dollars to be spent on education.

Some of you may remember my vanity rant from the other day when I complained about my local school taxes and the $18,600 per child public school budget.

Figures released recently show that in the mandatory testing done in 8th grade, only 64% of the children in my school system passed both the Math and English portions. And that is at $18,600 per student.

That places out town of Putnam Valley NY in the highest 1% of per student spending in New York State. I don't have any precise figures, but I'll bet we're in the top 1% in the nation as well. So much for the performance of a government run monopoly. Anyone want to buy a house?

[martin gibson]

Huge John Gatto BUMP!!!!

[Tokhtamish]

What a fundamentally wrong interpretation of the Jena campaign and the Prussian reform movement !

For one thing, the French army were not in the least amateurs. Conscript does not mean amateur. These were the battle-hardened victors of Marengo, Ulm, and Austerlitz. They would go on to be the victors of Jena, Auerstadt, and Wagram. The Prussian army was a typical 18th century barrack slave army of sullen lifers led by the lash, the noose, and the gauntlet, essentially a marching maximum security prison that would desert at the first opportunity, fighting for fear of their officers instead of patriotism. The French Army was flexible and motivated and ability was rewarded with promotion, whatever your social origin. The Prussian Army of Jena was rigid and reactionary.

The purpose of creating a public education system was the desire of Scharnhorst and Gneisenau to change Prussia from a barracks of cowed slaves to a patriotic nation. The stark contrast between the servility of the Prussian populace to their French conquerors and Spanish people's war shamed them. To create an army motivated by patriotism instead of terror. It was not about absolute obedience at all.

For instance, what made Napoleonic victories so much more decisive than Frederick's was the concept of pursuit. It is pursuit that prevents a defeated army from regrouping and fighting again another day. It is pursuit that turns a defeated army into a mob of refugees. Frederick could never pursue because he could not trust his men not to desert if they were ever beyond the strictest command control. He could not trust small units to engage the enemy on their own initiative. Napoleon could trust the patriotism and initiative of his men. The Prussian reformers understood that to copy French tactics you had to have a people's army, not a barrack slave army.

[Stand Watch Listen]

Here are links to various education threads (also containing numerous helpful links)

FReegards

Audit rips Georgia schools' curriculum
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution; Published: March 11, 2002;
Author:JAMES SALZER

Why schools fail: Samuel Blumenfeld warns Bush's education legislation is ineffective
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: March 2, 2002;
Author: Samuel Blumenfeld

Public School Isn't Like I Remember It
Too Good Reports; Published: February 28, 2002;
Author: Phyllis Schlafly

What Is Lacking In Our Educational System
Source: Too Good Reports; Published: February 28, 2002;
Author:| Ben Cerruti

The charade of education reform
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: February 2, 2002;
Author: Dr. Samuel L. Blumenfeld

American public schools: Working just as designed
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: January 21, 2002;
Author: Vox Day

High Schools Fail Thanks To Grade Inflation And Social Promotion
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: December 5, 2001
Author: Vin Suprynowicz

WHY AMERICANS CAN’T READ
Source: Accuracy in Media; Published: December 4, 2001
Author: Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid

The Failing Teacher and the Teachers' Code of Silence
Source: CNSNews.com; Published: December 3, 2001
Author: Glenn Sacks

Time for outrage! Linda Bowles reports latest results in America's public schools
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: November 27, 2001
Author: Linda Bowles

Illiterate in Boston: Samuel Blumenfeld explains U.S.'s ongoing reading problem
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: July 20, 2001
Author:Samuel Blumenfeld

NEA - Let our children go!
Source: WorldNet Daily; Published: June 23. 2001
Author: Linda Harvey

COOKING THE BOOKS AT EDUCATION
Source: Accuracy In Media; Published: June 5, 2001;
Author: Cliff Kincaid

Why Do Schools Play Games With Students' Minds ?
Source: The Detroit News; Published: April 1, 2001
Author: Thomas Sowell

The Public School Nightmare: Why fix a system designed to destroy individual thought?
Source: http://home.talkcity.com/LibraryDr/patt/homeschl.htm
Author: John Taylor Gatto

Dumbing down teachers
Source: USNews.com; Published: February 21, 2001
Author: John Leo

Free Republic links to education related articles (thread#8)
Source: Free Republic; Published: 3-20-2001
Author: Various

Are children deliberately 'dumbed down' in school? {YES!!!}
Source: World Net Daily; Published: May 13, 2001
Author: Geoff Metcalf {Interview}

New Book Explores America's Education Catastrophe
Source: Christian Citizen USA; Published: April 2000
Author: William H. Wild

Deliberately dumbing us down (Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt's, "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America"
Source: WorldNetDaily.com; Published: December 2,1999
Author: Samuel L. Blumenfeld

Could they really have done it on purpose?
Source: THE LIBERTARIAN; Published: 07/28/2000
Author: Vin Suprynowicz

From the Littleton Crisis to Government Control Littleton Crisis to Government Control

The UN Plan for Your Mental Health The UN Plan for Your Mental Health

[one2many]

Outstanding post.

For the "long version" of this story you MUST READ the book below. It tells how the Boston Brahmin class embraced this crap and foisted it off on the nation (invading and subjugating the South was necessary before they could pull it off nationwide).

GET THIS BOOK!!!: Is Public Education Necessary?

[luvzhottea]

NEA riddled government schools are unfit for our children.

[FreedomFriend]

The Public Schools are Indoctrination Camps.

The Overall Themes that they present include:
1) Multiculturalism
2) Environmentalism
3) Secular Humanism
4) Historical Revisionism
5) Junk Science
6) Adult-Themed Sexuality
7) Dumbed-Downed Math & English

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

NO,IT'S THE STUPID PUBLIC SCHOOLS!

[EdReform]

Bump

[Lizavetta]

Very importantly, homeschool families don't take any money from the taxpayers.

Oh yes, many of them do.

Do a search and find Chris Cardiff's excellent piece "Seduction of Homeschooling Families" and read how the government schools are bribing those who bolted the system to come back and enroll in "independent study programs", in which they're entitled to a fixed amount of cash per kid....cash for music lessons, ski trips, art class, curricula and supplies, etc....cash that these families become addicted to and as a result of accepting this money the schools set down "requirements" and "standards" that must be met. Government is moving in on homeschooling by this "nose under the tent" tactic.

It's unfortunately changing the attitude of homeschoolers from "get out of my face" to "where's my money?".

[Lizavetta]

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