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To: BibChr
But don't lie about it. It is clear in its teaching: life begins at conception.

I've read your nonsensical article before. You're the liar, you Bible-rejecting heretic. You reject the Hebrew Masoretic reading to prove a point that isn't even there. It was a miscarriage in the passage -- her fruit has departed --, and you know it. The judges determine the compensation for the miscarriage -- and notice it's compensation, not DEATH that's called for (as it would be if it were murder). The judgment following that has to do with whether or not the woman is harmed. Read it. Exodus 21: 22-25:

If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

It's as clear as the nose on your face. To everyone except a Greek or Hebrew "scholar," (who of course doesn't hesitate to change the reading to suit his or her own doctrine). Which I assume you claim to be.

(If that last part is about a baby, when was the last time you saw a baby born with TEETH, except perhaps Jethro Bodine on the Beverly Hillbillies?)

Watch who you call liar, liar.

32 posted on 04/09/2002 3:06:22 PM PDT by Risky Schemer
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To: Risky Schemer; Artist
You are totally mistaken. Evidently you read the Bible as poorly as you read my essay, if you ever did more than glance at it.

I don't do one thing to the MT except translate it, and the sense of it is plain. (Odd you make this contentless jape, then quote the verse as speaking of "fruit" which, as far as I know, no manuscript or ancient version supports.) The passage speaks of a premature birth cause by injury. The man who causes the injury is punishable to the extent of the damage he causes, whether he hurts mother or child. Don't most mothers have teeth?

You want to be known as favoring butchering living children, that is yours to carry before God.

But stop lying about the Bible. It is univocal. Human life begins in the womb, was protected by God's law, should be protected by human law.

Dan

43 posted on 04/09/2002 7:58:58 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: Risky Schemer
Point of order--all babies are born with full sets of teeth. The teeth of most are covered by their gums. Some babies' teeth are visible at birth, however.
87 posted on 04/11/2002 8:42:03 AM PDT by mondonico
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