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Schumer wants to restrict gun sales to people with mental illness or restraining orders
NewsRadio 88 ^ | 4/9/02

Posted on 04/09/2002 5:58:50 AM PDT by areafiftyone

(Lynbrook, Long Island-AP) -- Senator Charles Schumer says there's a loophole that allows people with mental illness or restraining orders against them to buy a gun. Schumer says the person accused of shooting a priest and a woman at a Lynbrook, Long Island church last month had a history of mental illness. Schumer says state records covering mentally ill patients are not forwarded to the F-B-I - so federal background checks don't see any ``red flags.''

He wants the federal National Instant Criminal Background Check System to get notices of people in mental hospitals so a background check would show they should not be sold a gun. Schumer says 34-year-old Peter Troy bought his .22 caliber semi-automatic rifle on March 8th. Four days later he allegedly shot the gun in Our Lady of Peace Church in Lynbrook, killing the Reverend Lawrence Penzes and a female parishioner. Schumer says Troy had been admitted to Bellevue Hospital and the Nassau University Medical Center on at least two occasions, but his background check did not reveal that. Schumer says federal background checks ``are only as good as the records that are in the system.'' Schumer adds that Troy's mother had a restraining order issued against him in February 1998. He says that fact, also was missed by the background check.


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1 posted on 04/09/2002 5:58:50 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Schumer wants to restrict gun sales to people with mental illness or restraining orders

Would this be a check form of the box -- I am qualified to purchase a gun because of:

__mental illness
__restraining order?

2 posted on 04/09/2002 6:04:21 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: areafiftyone
Aren't these liberals the same ones who demanded that mentally ill be released from the mental hospitals as a matter of individual freedoms and civil rights?
3 posted on 04/09/2002 6:04:36 AM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: Redleg Duke
Well, now, that means Queen of the Damned and the entire membership of N.O.W. couldn't carry guns.

Heehee

4 posted on 04/09/2002 6:07:12 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: steve-b
Would this be a check form of the box

No, it already is that way, at least in my state. The headline is misleading. What Schumer wants is centralized record-keeping to confirm the status of the purchaser.

5 posted on 04/09/2002 6:15:11 AM PDT by Ratatoskr
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To: Ratatoskr
From viewing Schumers past gun control efforts, anything Schumer requests as far as gun control needs to be seriously looked at

Franklin

6 posted on 04/09/2002 6:26:36 AM PDT by survivalforum.com
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To: areafiftyone
And what does Schumer plan for protecting the other victims of "deinstitutionalization?"

NYC has had way more than its share of people with known psycho record that come out after the fact shoving people in front of subway trains, hacking ferry passengers to death with toy swords, firebombs aboard subway trains, etc. In fact, NYC's "crazy crime" problem seems to be that it is a magnet for psychos and the homeless - rather than either guns or toy swords or glass jars full of gasoline - and has a deserved reputation for easy plea bargains that keep many violent criminals who'd be jailed anywhere else on its streets.

Scandals of antigun politicians - from Kalifornia to Manhattan!

7 posted on 04/09/2002 6:40:34 AM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: glc1173@aol.com
In future, all democrat votes by the mentally incompetent in New York should be thrown out.

Could cost Shumer his seat.

8 posted on 04/09/2002 6:42:51 AM PDT by Francohio
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To: Francohio
"In future, all democrat votes by the mentally incompetent in New York should be thrown out. Could cost Shumer his seat."

Heheheh... rather than put that pressure on the voters, let's just not let the mentally incompetent run for office, that should take care of the entire DemoPublican Party.

9 posted on 04/09/2002 7:03:24 AM PDT by Shadow Deamon
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To: survivalforum.com
New Yorkers are idiots when it comes to guns. All these gun laws on the books have not stopped crime at all. Guiliani was able to make a dent in crime by starting with the little things like "quality of life" crimes and then move on to the bigger ones. We New Yorkers have had gun laws for years and nothing has changed. Its all a crock of Bull. Democreeps use scare tactics all the time - if its not Social Security its guns and gun laws.
10 posted on 04/09/2002 7:05:49 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Yeah well, just wait till they declare 'strong religious affiliation' or 'anti-government' sentiment to be 'mental disorders'. This whole idea is very disturbing in that 'mental illness' can be defined as whatever the state *wants* to define as mental illness.
11 posted on 04/09/2002 7:12:12 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: bang_list
There's also a loophole in the Bill of Rights that guarantees individuals the right to keep and bear arms... that one's on the list, but they have to get the little stuff out of the way first.
12 posted on 04/09/2002 7:13:58 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: areafiftyone
Schumer wants to restrict gun sales to people with mental illness or restraining orders

Is this suppose to be a bad thing?

13 posted on 04/09/2002 7:15:29 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
Is this supposed to be a bad thing?

Is the centralized, Federal nanny state supposed to be a bad thing?

14 posted on 04/09/2002 7:32:55 AM PDT by newgeezer
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To: steve-b
Did you pack your own bags?
16 posted on 04/09/2002 7:42:47 AM PDT by bvw
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To: newgeezer
Is the centralized, Federal nanny state supposed to be a bad thing?

What does that have to do with anything. Is it bad that fellons shouldn't be able to get guns? Is it bad to know who is a fellon?

17 posted on 04/09/2002 7:56:21 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: MRAR15Guy56
Only if you have a problem with the FBI having YOUR mental health records....I know I sure do

Who keeps track of fellons? You are not born with a mental record to be kept track of. You have to be found crazy to get a mental record.

18 posted on 04/09/2002 7:57:30 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: Ratatoskr
The headline is misleading.

That's my point -- some semi-literate wrote it to say that Schumer wants to restrict gun sales so that only the mentally ill or the legally restrained are allowed to buy them.

19 posted on 04/09/2002 8:06:14 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: biblewonk
What does that have to do with anything. Is it bad that fellons shouldn't be able to get guns? Is it bad to know who is a fellon?

Felons having guns wasn't a problem until the nanny state started disarming the rest of us through unconstitutional restrictions.

20 posted on 04/09/2002 8:06:56 AM PDT by newgeezer
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