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JUAN MIGUEL GONZALEZ REQUESTED ASYLUM THREE TIMES AND WAS DENIED BY RENO!!!!
Local news | April 10, 2002 | Luis Gonzalez

Posted on 04/09/2002 9:20:18 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez

Miami local news have been reporting on the case of INS whistleblower Rick Ramirez.

Mr. Ramirez had a hearing Tuesday. April 9, where he denounced the actions of the Miami INS office, who under direct orders from then INS Commisioner Doris Meissner, destroyed and/or deleted all documents pertaining to the Elian Gonzalez case from their computers.

In a bomb shell announcement, Mr. Ramirez and his attorneys (Judicial Watch) have announced that at a press conference to be held Wednesday, April 10th. at 8:00 AM, they will produce proof that Juan MIguel Gonzalez was fully aware of Elisabet's trip to the US, that Juan Miguel wanted to leave Cuba as well, that the US government was fully aware that Juan Miguel Gonzalez was co-erced by Cuban agents, THAT HE ASKED FOR ASYLUM AT LEAST THREE TIMES WHILE HE WAS HERE, AND THAT EACH REQUEST WAS DENIED BY EX-AG, JANET RENO.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: castro; cuba; elian; reno
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Attorney Larry Klayman, chairman and general counsel for Judical Watch, reads from a copy of an internal Immigration and Naturalization Service memo during a news conference in Miami Wednesday April 10, 2002. The December 1999 memo discussed granting political assylum to Elian Gonzalez if the U.S. could show that the Cuban Goverment had coerced Elian's father into demanding the child's return. The memo also has hand-scrawled notes saying then-INS Commissioner Doris Meissner ordered the destruction of the memo. (AP Photo/Marta Lavandier)

221 posted on 04/10/2002 9:19:14 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Posted on Wed, Apr. 10, 2002


INS weighed asylum for Elián


achardy@herald.com

In the days before the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service decided to return Elián González to his father, senior INS officials discussed granting asylum to the boy if they could show that the Cuban government had coerced the father into demanding the child's return, according to an internal INS memo shown to The Herald Tuesday.

The Dec. 29, 1999, memo, cited on the first day of a federal employee grievance proceeding in Miami, also noted that some INS officials believed Elián's father -- Juan Miguel González -- at one time sought an immigrant visa to the United States and that his calls to his relatives in Little Havana might have been monitored by the Cuban government. It's the first time this memo has surfaced since the Elián saga began on Thanksgiving Day 1999.

Hand-scrawled notes at the bottom of the two-page memo said then-INS Commissioner Doris Meissner ordered the destruction of the memo one day after it was written when she learned of its existence. According to the notes, Meissner ordered that no more discussions related to Elián be committed to writing. The notes were signed by Rebeca Sánchez-Roig, an INS attorney at the time and author of the memo.

Somehow a copy of the memo, in the form of an e-mail, survived and on Tuesday was turned over to the U. S. Merit Systems Protection Board, an independent, quasi-judicial agency that serves as an arbitration panel for federal employee grievances against their agencies.

The commission began proceedings Tuesday on claims by INS agent Rick Ramírez who said that the agency is retaliating against him for claiming that INS officials harbored anti-Cuban feelings. Ramírez claimed that atmosphere contributed to ''excessive force'' in the April 2000 raid in which Elián was taken from the Little Havana home of his U.S. relatives and reunited with his father.

Ramírez is seeking a transfer to another INS district, as well as a finding by the board that the agency retaliated against him. A federal judge in Miami dismissed Ramírez's lawsuit against INS last month. Ramírez said he would appeal.

Elián, who was 6 at the time, arrived in the United States on Thanksgiving Day 1999 on a makeshift boat, the sole survivor of a risky voyage that killed his mother. Her death set the stage for an international custody battle.

Meissner could not be reached for comment. But on Jan. 5, 2000, seven days after the Sánchez-Roig memo was written, Meissner announced her decision to return Elián to his father, concluding that the father was sincere in his wish to have his son back.

Rodney Germain, an INS spokesman in Miami, said his agency will withhold comment pending completion of the proceedings.

Richard Vitaris, the judge presiding over the proceedings at the Hyatt Regency hotel in Miami, refused to admit the memo into evidence on the ground it was not ''relevant'' to Ramírez's allegations because it was written prior to the raid.

But Ramírez's attorney, Larry Klayman of the conservative legal watchdog group Judicial Watch, said the memo showed that some INS officials thought Elián deserved asylum since Cuba might have pressured his father.

The memo was turned over to the board by Diana Alvarez, an INS attorney who testified on Ramírez's behalf.

The memo by Sánchez-Roig, whom Alvarez identified as a fellow INS employee, summarized a conference call on the Elián case involving several senior INS employees including Meissner.

The paragraph on whether Elián's father sought a visa to the United States suggested that he had applied for the visa in an annual lottery for Cuban nationals in Havana. U.S. officials have maintained they could not find any record of Juan González's request.

The memo said: ``It appears that the father had made an application (potentially the lottery) to depart Cuba.''

On whether Elián deserved asylum, the memo said if coercion of Elián's father could be shown INS could ``potentially accept the child's asylum's application and advise that there is no prohibition on age to child filing application. As such PA should proceed.''

PA appears to have been a reference to political asylum.


222 posted on 04/10/2002 9:23:34 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
my,my,my, done found a do-no wrong because he is republican.

king george got my vote once, won't get it again.

unlike you, i can still think for myself, even with a so-called republican conservative in the white house.

i support the Constitution, not a political party.

so you keep supporting ol' king george, but don't cry when the birds come home to nest.

223 posted on 04/10/2002 9:55:03 AM PDT by dreadme
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Here's the link to the story.
224 posted on 04/10/2002 10:08:51 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: Republic
...I am so furious at Reno and Gregg Craig of Williams and Connerly law firm in DC, at bill clinton and doris meissner and hillary clinton and joan campbell that I cannot even think straight.

Every damned one of them should be drawn an quartered IMHO!

225 posted on 04/10/2002 10:10:57 AM PDT by Bigun
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To: Husker8877
Man, I missed that the first time around. Thanks for reposting it.

Scary thing is, it could be based on truth. I have to wonder how anybody follows orders he knows is wrong...or maybe the jackbooted thugs don't read the paper or watch TV and are oblivious to what goes on around them.

I mean..look at WACO. Did the ATF and FBI really think those people were a threat worthy of a military style operation before the standoff? But I digress...sorry.

Good Post...BTTT

226 posted on 04/10/2002 10:13:44 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The INS, in handling this case, defied Federal Courts, gave full access to a military base to Castro's henchmen, and denied the Senator in whose district the base is entrance.

Lets not be spreading rumors. The INS has no authority on Military bases, that comes from way above INS, as does access to Military bases.

That blame goes to Clinton, not the INS.

227 posted on 04/10/2002 10:44:34 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Look who's here!

RS...

Rush then explained his job was not to act as a mouthpiece for the Republican party, but to advance conservatism and resist liberalism.

Vast...

Not to worry, come election time, Rush will be acting as a mouthpiece of the GOP again.

4 posted on 4/10/02 8:31 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by A Vast RightWing Conspirator [

228 posted on 04/10/2002 10:49:53 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Luis Gonzalez
What is going on with this story, is it confirmed that the father attempted to get asylum and or that we knew he was being coerced by agents??
229 posted on 04/10/2002 10:51:58 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Tickle Me Pank
FWIW:INS officials have tried to keep the Elian Gonzalez and Faget cases as far from each other as possible,denying complaints that Faget could have somehow influenced the INS decision to return the child to his father in Cuba.
230 posted on 04/10/2002 10:56:56 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: Luis Gonzalez
This news is heartbreaking, if true.
231 posted on 04/10/2002 10:59:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I miss little Elian. Sorry to say, I believe his brain has been chemically altered (chemical labotomy) so that he won't make Castro look bad. Poor little guy. I can barely stand to read this but if it leads to some justice, I'm all for it. For victory & freedom & the TRUTH!!!
232 posted on 04/10/2002 11:02:02 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Well there you have it. The smoking gun that does not smoke.

The memo said: ``It appears that the father had made an application (potentially the lottery) to depart Cuba.''

When did he make this application? What type of application was it? If is was a lottery, then it has no bearing on this case.

On whether Elián deserved asylum, the memo said if coercion of Elián's father could be shown INS could ``potentially accept the child's asylum's application and advise that there is no prohibition on age to child filing application. As such PA should proceed.''

Now JW has to provide concrete evidence that Elian's father was coerced, so the INS can "potentially" accept the Political Asylum application of Elian.

po·ten·tial (adj.)

1.Capable of being but not yet in existence; latent: a potential problem.
2.Having possibility, capability, or power.
3.Grammar. Of, relating to, or being a verbal construction with auxiliaries such as may or can; for example, it may snow.

Under these terms and conditions, the Commissioner could easily deny the Political Asylum application even if Elians father was coerced.

JW has nothing, once again.

233 posted on 04/10/2002 11:31:43 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: shadowman99
I always wondered what would have happened if the people in or around the house had given more of a fight. Those INS agents looked like they were ready to use those assault rifles. Would there have been another "Waco" on Reno's resume?
234 posted on 04/10/2002 11:38:34 AM PDT by Frank Grimes
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To: Luis Gonzalez
INS Lawyer: Meissner Ordered Elian Evidence Destroyed

Here is a link that explians the E-mail better. This is the smoking gun.

235 posted on 04/10/2002 11:41:32 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Luis Gonzalez
BUMP
236 posted on 04/10/2002 11:47:01 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Wow! If they can prove it, this is a BOMBSHELL. Although not surprising, considering how sympathetic the last administration was to the communists.
237 posted on 04/10/2002 11:49:17 AM PDT by MiamiFreePress
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To: Marine Inspector
Please, don't be so desperate to excuse off the actions of Meissner and Reno, JW actually DOES have at least Meissner by the balls, she ordered those e-mails, etc. destroyed.

Look for the story that mentions the speaker/listening device installed in Juan Miguel's house by Castro's people, and then tell me there's no evidence of his being coerced. Either that, or convince me that under the same circumstances you wouldn't feel coerced.

238 posted on 04/10/2002 12:09:51 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
BUMP for truth & justice!

If this is true, oh man, oh man. Keep us updated.

239 posted on 04/10/2002 12:14:16 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Another shining example of the clintoon legacy. Would like to be informed if another source verifies this or it comes up in court. Thanx!
240 posted on 04/10/2002 12:20:10 PM PDT by breakem
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