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1 posted on 04/10/2002 3:07:33 PM PDT by Legume
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To: Legume
The Indian wars are over. You lost. Get over it.

Try making a better life for your people rather than just sitting around and whining about the 'good old days before the white devils came.'

3 posted on 04/10/2002 3:36:38 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: Legume
Did it takesome C.I.A. psy-war expertto figure out how best to cover-up the murder ofover 200 million people?Ah, another gross exaggeration.
4 posted on 04/10/2002 3:42:52 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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"Am I the only indian who doesn't trust the graverobbing Smithsonian..."

Judging by the indian museums I've seen, I guess only indians are permitted to be graverobbers of their indian ancestors.

"Next, Americans can walk over to the museum of 'Indian' history.They willbe amazed and pleased at the beauty of our past..."

Scalping, skinning, impaling, etc.? (These were tactics used by warring tribes long before evil whitey showed up by the way) I wonder if the butchery on the side of the indian will also be included? Besides, living day to day in mudhuts is beauty?

Theres some old indian saying that goes something like, "noone can own the earth." If that is true, a) how is it that we purchased Manhattan with trinquets, and b) how is it exactly that "evil whitey" STOLE North America from the indian? If you cant own something, I dont think that you can steal it.

My old calculus professor (in Colorado) used to tell me a story:

A group of indians came upon great flowing river. The indians, having come from an area where food was sparce, decided to attempt crossing the river. By the time the tribe crossed the river on foot, over half of them were dead- swept away by the great river.

Months later a group of white men ("evil whities") came to the banks of the same river. Studying the river, and calculating the risks to be great, the white men decided to build a bridge across it. They did, everyone survived- and subsequent travellers could also use their bridge.

Professor: "The indians were passive relative to their surroundings. The white men used what surrounded them to conquer their obstacles...

I am a BUILDER!" /prof. quote> (In this analogy indians=indiginous peoples of the world, and evil whities=advanced societies).

5 posted on 04/10/2002 3:47:40 PM PDT by robomatik
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the people they were stolen from (or bought, same thing)

That tells you all you need know about this idiot's thinking power.

6 posted on 04/10/2002 3:53:57 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Legume
If the American aborigine had had the same means, methods and cultural drive as the occidental,
he could have conquered them.

But he didn't, and doesn't.

Maybe it's finally time to leave the reservation.

8 posted on 04/10/2002 4:02:15 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Legume
As the childhood diseases of the Old World traveled across the continents they sometimes killed 95% to 98% of the people.

It took over 3 centuries to repopulate the area up to anywhere near the numbers that had been here.

One of humankind's most devastating plagues destroyed the Indian nations and cultures - not genocide!

In fact, just about the only folks to survive it had an European ancestor or two from the first contacts. They still suffer a very high infant mortality rate. Reference the Apostolic Charismatic Church of the First Born. They have their Indian roots although most people who come in contact with them believe them to be white. Still, the peyote use after main church services is one give away. Another is their practice of serial polygamy. There are others.

Those still identifying themselves as Indians, particularly those on the reservations, know about the infant mortality rate first hand, as well, and will tell you about it. I don't know if they do the same things as COTFB, but I wouldn't be surprised.

9 posted on 04/10/2002 4:04:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Now just imagine the situation. At the time of the Pilgrims there were maybe five million Indians living in what would be the future U.S. Five million for 3.6 million square miles. That means the land was thinly populated with many areas almost totally uninhabited. Now what would you do if you were a group of people coming into a sparsely inhabited almost completely undeveloped wilderness? Would you say things were too crowded and turn back? But what did the original inhabitants (Indians) do when they settled the land thousands of years before? Do you think that they ran into some other groups of people and decided to go back to Asia? Hardly. They did what other people have done since humans began roaming the earth. They found space for themselves or drove other people off theirs. Indian victimologists like this person want to believe like many other humans that their society was totally pure and innocent of sin. No society of humans is perfect but very imperfect. That means they had killer societies like the Aztecs and others that practiced warfare and took other Indian lands like the Sioux.

But when the Europeans came the Indians faced an enemy with a superior culture and numbers. The result was inevitable. It was the same result my Slovenian ancestors experienced two thousand years ago when the Romans invaded their land. My ancestors inferior culture was swallowed up by the superior Roman one. That is the way of the world. Could the settling of this country have been done better? Obviously yes. But what do Indians like this writer wish for...a return to their hunter-gatherer past? It would just as ridiculous for my ancestors to junk their present modern life and go back to the mountains herding sheep for a living. All peoples must adjust to modern society or perish. Indians like David Yeagley have adjusted to reality. The writer of this article has not.

10 posted on 04/10/2002 4:37:08 PM PDT by driftless
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