Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Enough Already! (A War against Terror or Islam?)
NRO ^ | April 10, 2002 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 04/10/2002 5:25:19 PM PDT by My Identity

I'm really beginning to believe we should stop the war on terrorism. Not because I'm against the fighting. And not because I don't think there are individuals, groups, and states deserving of a firsthand tutorial on the efficacy of the arsenal of democracy.

No, I simply think the war on terrorism may be the wrong war. Terrorism isn't an "ism" like Communism, fascism, socialism, capitalism, etc. To the extent the suffix "ism" suggests a body of thought or system of belief, "terrorism" is a misnomer.

Terrorism is a means — the intentional use of violence against civilian populations in order to achieve political ends. We're at war with the people seeking those ends.

ONE MAN'S TERRORIST
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter." This phrase has been invoked by Reuters, the BBC, and a host of commentators across the ideological spectrum — including, alas, Bob Novak — who are unable or unwilling to apply the word "terrorist" to Yasser Arafat or Hamas. It is another example of how the greatest lies are told with half-truths.

Sure, it's true, but it's not always true. A thief can be a hero if he's stealing for the right reason, but a thief can also be, well, a thief. In fact, most thieves are thieves, not heroes. Similarly, sometimes a terrorist is just a terrorist.

The best illustration of this on the international stage actually isn't in the Middle East, but in Africa. During the Cold War, various tribes and gangs of murderers wrapped themselves in one political cause or another. The People's Liberation Front of this, the Marxist Rebels of that. Today, there's little to be gained from such ideological kabuki, so these groups — in Sierra Leone, for example — are simply murderers, thugs, and, yes, terrorists. They chop off the arms of children not in order to usher in some utopian age of socialism, pan-Africanism, or transgender liberty. No, they do it because they believe inflicting such terror will make it easier to sell diamonds, or drugs, or whatever.

So yeah, if the movie Red Dawn had actually happened, and the United States had been overrun by the godless armies of the Soviet Union, I could see American freedom fighters rightly doing things the Reds would consider "terrorist." I would like to think we wouldn't aim to tear apart women and children, but war is war and who knows what we'd do.

However — and this is a big however — if the Crips or the Bloods or even a radical faction of Up With People decided to start blowing up kids in pizza parlors, or hijacking planes and smashing them into our tallest buildings, I would not call them "freedom fighters." I'd call them terrorists. Just because you can call some terrorists freedom fighters, does not mean that all terrorists are freedom fighters.

Moreover, even if someone is a freedom fighter, so what? If you're a "freedom fighter" you can also be a terrorist and wrong too, can't you? Or does calling yourself a freedom fighter automatically absolve you from the laws of man and God?

In other words, not all freedoms — real or perceived — are worth murdering innocent people for. Imagine if a black separatist or neo-Nazi group wanted to establish its own little Freedonia somewhere in Michigan or Idaho. If they started hacking up kids or blowing up coffee shops to get their way, they could claim to be freedom fighters. But they'd also be terrorists and they'd deserve to be put down by any means necessary. Otherwise taking up arms — or suicide bombs — in the name of freedom would be always and everywhere right.

Ultimately, saying "One man's terrorist…" is at best either a debater's trick or else the kind of cliché that passes for wisdom in a lazy mind and is used to substitute for an actual argument — like saying "Violence never solved anything" (tell that to the people liberated from concentration camps or slavery). At worst, it's a way to side with the terrorists without having to admit it.

A WAR ON ISLAM?
Still, the problem remains. Terrorism is a tactic, a means to an end. Declaring war on terrorism is like declaring war on murder, but not on killing. Since murder is largely defined not by the act of taking a life but by the intent of the killer, it can be very difficult to decide who is a murderer and who has killed for just cause. After all, we may have killed more innocent people in Afghanistan than al-Quaeda did in the United States as part of our war on terrorism, but that doesn't mean we're morally indistinguishable from the people who hijacked those planes on September 11.

Put it this way: If Syria formally declared war on the United States and (somehow) attacked us with missiles and artillery, would we declare a "new war on ballistic armaments"? Or would we just declare war on Syria and be done with the semantics? If al Qaeda raised an army against us and fought with conventional weapons, would we refrain from firing back — since we are at war with "terrorism" and not with conventional armies?

I understand that we declared a war on terrorism rather than on Islam, Afghanistan, or the "Arab world" for a reason. It made sense at the time and obviously makes sense even now, when looked at from a certain geopolitical vantage point.

But is it true? If the IRA started getting restless and blew up some more British pubs, would we send troops to Ireland? Would we stomp on "charities" here in the United States which provided aid and comfort to Irish radicals? I don't know, maybe we would, but you can see how murky things might get. Here's a better one: What if legitimately democratic revolutionaries started blowing up stuff in China? Would we call them freedom fighters or terrorists? Hey, what if Kurds in Iraq took the fight to downtown Baghdad? Do we then train the Iraqi Republican Guard to crush terrorist cells the way we're training troops in Yemen and Armenia? Of course not.

The simple fact is that we are not at war with terrorism, we are at war with a brand of Islam. You can deny that, if such clarity makes you uncomfortable. But you cannot deny that a brand of Islam is most certainly at war with us. You can call this brand Islamofascism, radical Islam, Wahhabism, whatever you want — just so long as you remember that they are not Islamofascists because they are terrorists, they are terrorists because they are Islamofascists. This ideology is not purely religious, it's tied up with various flavors of tribalism, pan-Arabism, and nationalism (hence all the talk about Crusaders, imperialism, etc.). Why this ideology justifies terrorism is actually a fascinating question with complex historical, religious, and military aspects. Hit-and-run raids are a staple of Arab warfare going back to Bedouin days. Islam allows for the total destruction of your enemies (it also requires mercy but, sadly, the folks we're talking about skip those passages).

And, most obvious, neither these specific groups nor the Arab world in general can hold a candle to the West militarily. They use terrorist techniques because they cannot hurt us using conventional ones. As the Palestinians are so fond of pointing out, they "have to" use suicide bombers against Israel because they don't have the planes and tanks the Israelis have. In other words, if they had planes and tanks they would use them, because they are at war with Israel. And there's a lesson here for us too. Rich Lowry made a persuasive argument yesterday comparing the war in Israel to the Spanish Civil War of the 1930s. Regardless of whether you think we are at war with Islamofascism or with "terrorism," either way Israel is on the front line of that war. If you think Osama bin Laden (assuming he's alive) will stop what he's doing if Israel disappears tomorrow, you're ignoring the fact that Osama bin Laden never cared about Israel until after September 11.

Now, if you think America shouldn't care about or help Israel because — as a matter of cold, hard, geopolitical calculation — it's not in our interests, I can actually respect that. I disagree with it profoundly. But I can understand the argument.

What I cannot respect or understand are the absurd gymnastics used to say that Yasser Arafat, Saddam Hussein, or the Assad regime in Syria are not terrorists the way the "Bush doctrine" defines terrorists. It is an insult to our collective intelligence to hear our elected leader explain that the people who foot the bills for suicide bombers aren't terrorists because there's a "peace process" in place. If we are at war with cross-border terrorists and the states that support them, we should and must be at war with Yasser Arafat, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and to a certain extent Saudi Arabia.

Listening to President Bush chew on his tongue trying to explain why Arafat isn't a terrorist is simply embarrassing. Watching the United States hold a fire sale on its moral authority in order to win the applause of the Saudis and the E.U. is depressing.

I don't want a war with the Islamic world. I don't want a war with the Arab world. But I do want a war with anybody who would wage one against us. During the Cold War, we figured out a way to talk about Communists without demonizing or rounding up everybody who believed the workers should control the means of production. Hell, we gave Communists of one flavor or another tenured positions in many of our top universities. Communists ran for public office across Europe and formed parties throughout the West (though, admittedly, they often took orders from the Kremlin).

We ought to be able to declare that we are at war with a kind of Islam without saying we are at war with all of Islam. I don't know what it should be called, but I do know that "terrorism" doesn't do the trick. Providing such clarity would help Americans understand what this war is and isn't about. Such clarity would show that we take our enemies seriously. Such clarity would allow the world to choose sides. And such clarity would also make it more difficult for people to use fatuous phrases like "One man's terrorist…"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islamism; islamofascism; jonahgoldberg; radicalislam; terrorism; wahhabism; wot

1 posted on 04/10/2002 5:25:19 PM PDT by My Identity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: My Identity
The simple fact is that we are not at war with terrorism, we are at war with a brand of Islam.

A statement of the obvious.

Next question: What percentage of all Arabic peoples follow that brand of Islam?
2 posted on 04/10/2002 5:28:21 PM PDT by My Identity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
we are at war with cross-border terrorists and the states that support them, we should and must be at war with Yasser Arafat, Iran, Iraq, Syria, and to a certain extent Saudi Arabia.

Why the equivocation on the Saudis?? They pay for martyrs.
3 posted on 04/10/2002 5:32:45 PM PDT by My Identity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
"The simple fact is that we are not at war with terrorism, we are at war with a brand of Islam."...

Next question: What percentage of all Arabic peoples follow that brand of Islam?

A major problem that we have is that Muslims put relations ahead of truth, so that no matter how ridiculous a view is espoused, if it is done in the name of "Islam," other muslims are deeply fearful of expressing opposition or disagreement. The primary loyalty is to the group rather than a body of what they regard as truth. In this way, muslims are radically different from "Westerners."

4 posted on 04/10/2002 5:41:41 PM PDT by cookcounty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
This is a sensational piece by Jonah. He is right on the money.

Obviously, President Bush and the powers that be can't call this a war on Islam or even a war on radical Islam. Daniel Pipes estimates about 10-20% of Muslims fit this description. However, this crowd controls many of the institutions throughout the World and in the US. These people thirst for our destruction.

The point Goldberg makes concerning Israel is absolutely correct. If Israel was destroyed tomorrow the threat to our way of life would still be there. Why are Christians being taken hostage in the Phillipines? Indonesia? Because of Isreal?

Do you remember the bin Laden video released after we began to bomb in Afghanistan? Bin Laden said the struggle began in 1924. That was the year Turkey looked to modernize and secularize it's government and society. He did not trace his grievances to 1948 and the formation of Israel. Even Egyptian President Mubarick has said bin Laden never cared about the Palestinians.

Like it or not this battle is over modernity. We represent that to these people. Appease them at your own risk. Let Israel fall. Watch it from the comfort of your living room. Say it's not our fight. But, ask yourself this question. Where does that leave us? Will these people be mollified? If you answer "Yes" than you don't understand human nature. You certainly don't have any grasp of history. A victory for terror and a victory for radical Islam is only the beginning. Sleep well.

5 posted on 04/10/2002 5:47:17 PM PDT by davidtalker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
We ought to be able to declare that we are at war with a kind of Islam without saying we are at war with all of Islam.

Problem. No matter how we deifine that "certain brand" of Islam, our targets will immediately proclaim it as all of Islam. And quite frankly, there may be little difference between the two definitions. Especially when you look at fundamental Shiite branch in Iran, fundamentalist Wahabbi sect in Saudi Arabia, fundamentalist Suuni sects in Palestine, Sudan, etc.
6 posted on 04/10/2002 5:56:34 PM PDT by My Identity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
Goldberg is on the right track. We are struggling to define who our enemies are. But Bush did that in the beginning, it is the terrrorists and those states that support terrorism. We have had enough time to follow the money in order to determine which states are supporting terrorism.

When we determined who the 9/11 terrorists were their pictures were published on the front page of almost every paper in the country. It is now time to identify the states who support terrorism with same notoriety. I am not sure we need to give one broad name to our enemies, a simple roll call of terrorists supporting states will suffice.

7 posted on 04/10/2002 5:57:18 PM PDT by Biblebelter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: davidtalker
Pipes estimates about 10-20% of Muslims fit this description.

Um, would all the fundamentalist and fascist and socialist muslims stand right over there please...
8 posted on 04/10/2002 6:00:43 PM PDT by My Identity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
This one is easy. The war on terrorism is really a war on freedom. Our freedom. So we do need to stop pretending.

The real enemy is Islam. The sooner we see that and stop pretending it isn't. The easier it is for the war to be won. This is a Holy War and it has been declared by Islam.

9 posted on 04/10/2002 6:08:38 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
We ought to be able to declare that we are at war with a kind of Islam without saying we are at war with all of Islam. I don't know what it should be called, but I do know that "terrorism" doesn't do the trick

I guess I don't get his point. Most of the terrorists out there today are Islamic. However, those that aren't; i.e. those in Columbia, Sri Lanka,etc, are not exactly our friends , either , are they?

The Islamofascist terrorists are the most dangerous because theyre the best funded..

10 posted on 04/10/2002 6:09:13 PM PDT by Nonstatist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
"Why the equivocation on the Saudis?? They pay for martyrs."

"Martyrs."

One of the things that upset me is the way muslim extremists are trying to wrest control of the language (English!) by radically re-defining the term "martyr."

In the western understanding of the term, "martyr" is permeated with ideas of holiness, purity, non-violence and forgiveness. While soldiers in our military might be termed "courageous," "brave," "faithful," "valiant," or "self-sacrificial," they are rarely called "martyrs."

The first Christian martyr was Stephen, who was stoned to death by his enemies for speaking out according to his conscience. As he fell, his last words were, "LORD, do not count this sin against them." The rest of the christian martyrs fall in line behind Stephen,. They lifted their hand against no one. They did no violence. Living the ideal of forgiveness, their last dying act was often to pronounce a blessing on those doing the killing.

What a contrast with an Islamic "shaheed!"

With the muslims, the last act is to curse one's enemies and to kill not only them, but any innocent children or babies or elderly associated with them. This behavior is the complete and total opposite of the meaning of "martyrdom."

It's time the abuse of the word "martyr" stopped. They can use "suicide-killer" or "blood-seeker" or "baby-hacker" or "grandma-smasher," but that "shaheed" should be translated "martyr" is utterly ludicrous. I'm sick of the press morons, and can't quite bring myself to say "forgive them, they know not what they do,"

11 posted on 04/10/2002 6:10:19 PM PDT by cookcounty
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
that would be... the "majority" brand of course. 87 percent has been radicallized to the minimum acceptable requirements of wahhibism... there are countries where they are the 13 percent minority of muslims... but there, they are in prison... Turkey... and soon to be Pakistan. perhaps indonesian islamic nations too. the ARAB Islamic... now THERE is the prime a#1 terrorist group.

Rule of thumb is... if they drink beer, wives wear miniskirts in public and the whole family eats barbequed ribs, texas style... they are the "safe" kind... if they wear sheets that look like tablecloths, talk whilst holding up one finger to heaven and roll their eyes, talk about the decadent West or frequently refer to Satan, and own stock in nail manufacturing firms... odds are they are the "killer" kind...

12 posted on 04/10/2002 6:14:05 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: cookcounty
It's time the abuse of the word "martyr" stopped. They can use "suicide-killer" or "blood-seeker" or "baby-hacker" or "grandma-smasher," but that "shaheed" should be translated "martyr" is utterly ludicrous.

You know, you're absolutely correct. I have a problem with "Suicide-bombers" because their primary goal is not suicide but the mass murder of civilians. So I use homicidal-bombers. But since a "martyr" is not necessarily a bomber, I suppose a more encompassing and accurate term is needed. How about "homicidal-maniacs" or "islamo-killers" or...
13 posted on 04/10/2002 6:18:00 PM PDT by My Identity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Yall
Jonah has lost his mind.

We already have outlawed Chemical, Biological and Nuclear weapons and promised to destroy anyone, friend or foe who uses them, excepting ourselves as the Global Hegemon.

We have now, under the Bush Doctrine, simply added terrorism to the list of prohibited tactics. Use terrorism and we will destroy you, no matter how good or noble your cause. Henceforth no one is allowed to use terrorism.

So9

14 posted on 04/10/2002 6:33:12 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: My Identity,howlin
Excellent. This article puts many of my disjointed thoughts into perspective. Thank you for finding and posting it.
15 posted on 04/10/2002 7:12:19 PM PDT by gcruse
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gcruse
Oh, I agree; and look how well this thread is behaving......LOL. A nice chat!
16 posted on 04/10/2002 7:16:31 PM PDT by Howlin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: cookcounty
I agree whole heartedly with your disgust of the use of the term "martyr". I hate the perversion of language. But it does illuminate the demonic nature of those with which we are contending.

After all, who is the Father of Lies ?

17 posted on 04/10/2002 8:11:58 PM PDT by happygrl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: My Identity
By far, the best article I've seen Mr. Goldberg write for National Review.
18 posted on 04/11/2002 12:14:15 AM PDT by SpyderTim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson