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The spin just keeps gaining momentum
1 posted on 04/11/2002 1:06:51 PM PDT by supportnospin.com
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Rule #1: The federal government never cuts spending.

Rule #2: If you believe the federal government has reduced spending, see Rule #1.

2 posted on 04/11/2002 1:21:34 PM PDT by FreeTally
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The truth is the money is being increased, but not wasted, and so are children's educations.

I thought the name of this guy's site was supportnospin.com.

That quote is as much spin as anything. Federal education spending, almost by definition, is waste.

3 posted on 04/11/2002 1:27:43 PM PDT by zoyd
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Kennedy is paththic isn't he? They all are over there on the left. For eight years they did nothing about fixing education, they did provide more jobs on school staffs but not for educational gains; the children languished per-usual while teachers got bigger salaries and more employee loads at schools.

I spoke with a first grade teacher in one of our "better" public schools, she didn't have enough construction paper, pencils or crayons, certainly not glue or tape for her little charges to make Easter cards etc. But they have special this and special that for children who can't read or write.

The democrats dumped billions into the education system; they couldn't account for some $340 Million of it but the teachers were happy with new perks; the superintendents were happy with more money and the new hires were happy with new jobs...but the children languished - per-usual.

Teaching has not improved as a matter of fact a test given in some states for the teachers found they couldn't pass it. The teachers complained; the heavily weighted democratic school boards said the tests were too hard so they lowered the standards. The teachers complained about the children having to take tests for the state, in order to graduate from various grades as the students couldn't pass the tests, they were too hard. So the bright lights, teachers and state Education Department lowered the standards on-the-test! Money? What on earth does Money have to do with learning? Poor undereducated teachers and poor silly Teddy, his lies have gotten him in a lot of trouble but some people would rather have perks and pay offs than educate the young. Work for their money? Only if we parents and grandparents keep their feet to the fire!

7 posted on 04/11/2002 2:47:01 PM PDT by yoe
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Because in the past two years the education budget has had whopping increases, Bush's new budget holds INCREASED SPENDING to about 2%. As you all know, that is a CUT by Democrat definition. I am SOOOOOoooooo sick of their spin.

Since Carter, education has had tremendously increased spending with zero results to show for the money. All I can see that it funded is school mandates to teach children how to become citizens of a global society, how to feel good about themselves (accomplishment from true learning would do that much better than the "feel good" programs), and teach that homosexuality is just another all right lifestyle.

One of the best ideas Repubs ever had was in 1994 when they wanted to close down education as a cabinet level dept. This cabinet Dept. sucks up untold millions for administrators, most of whom are radical liberals.Repubs.let the Dems and the media roll them over by not getting their message out--they were labeled "against" education, just as they were labeled against the elderly on SS and Medicare. AND Duuhh! people bought the spin. Would Dan,Peter and Tom and Judy lie? What is WRONG with the public--they act brainless and clueless.

Excuse my rant--it's just how frustrated I am.

vaudine

8 posted on 04/11/2002 2:50:56 PM PDT by vaudine
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Perhaps it was just your writeup but you didnt convince me that there wasnt a cut in spending. Your head line talks about was there a cut in spending and then you say no but I didnt find your proof in the article. Rather you seemed to switch topic from spending to results. Fair enough, results are more important. But thats not what your headline said, nor what the Democrat argument was. Seems you were spinning.

How about clarifying this for me. What was total education department spending last year and what is proposed in the budget for this year? Is that an increase or decrease?

9 posted on 04/11/2002 2:52:49 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: supportnospin.com
Another Democrat lie.
13 posted on 04/11/2002 4:33:58 PM PDT by dalebert
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Bush's new budget plan does not cut education; in fact it boosts education funding.

Remember how the GOP promised to do away with the Department of Education? So much for that promise.

14 posted on 04/11/2002 6:44:24 PM PDT by Rule of Law
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Thanks for posting this and clarifying the lies Kennedy has been spewing. I've been wondering about this.

The Kennedy spin sounds like the public schools spin here in Minnesota last year. They asked for a 8% increase and the legislature gave them 4%, (the numbers are approx), so almost every school district in the state came out asking for money via a local levy referendum with the lie that the legislature had "cut" their budget.

I guess when you budget with what you wish you had vs what you actually have this might be viewed as a cut.

I'd sure rather have the schools that are doing something right get the money than just throw it at all of them hoping something works.

18 posted on 04/11/2002 8:48:15 PM PDT by terilyn
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