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To: Aunt Polgara
Thanks for the info but the Girl Scouts are still the best thing in my town /area for teaching young ladies to be smart and responsible citizens when they grow up.

In all organizations there is good and bad, regarding organizations such as we are trying to support. That is why it is important to support and fund directly those locally known kids groups versus letting some bean counting administrative pogue dole out my donations with an eye dropper willy nilly to a national HQ level budget.

If I detect the pro lesbitarian efforts in any form or manner I walk with my money and time. Parents who don't or won't protect their "young" from such an all to early education (never seen a homosexual merit badge requirement for scouting.........yet) IMHO are the bigger threat to their own kids anyway.

Again just my personal opinion as a Old Eagle Scout trying to keep a good thing working for others...........

Thanks for the info and Stay Safe !

30 posted on 04/12/2002 8:35:49 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Squantos
Well, you must be very vigilant regarding the Girl Scouts. I was a girl scout, and I was one of the leaders of my daughter's troop for many years. A lot of what they do is very subtle, and some is not so subtle. For example, I remember that there was a program put on for the older girls, and one of the sessions was put on by Planned Parenthood. Another time, at our local neighborhood end-of-the-year awards ceremony for adults, those in charge thought it was appropriate to hire a female impersonator to "entertain" us. They got blasted for it by many of us leaders, but they couldn't understand why we would be upset, even though the entertainer had some pretty off-color jokes.

You have to understand that, unlike the Boy Scouts, local troop leaders are not welcome at most Girl Scout camps, so you have no idea what may go on there.

Let me give you another example. Both of my sons are Eagle Scouts. When they went to camp, the troop leaders accompanied them. So at least we knew the men who were involved (my dear husband among them.) The camp that they went to always tried to have religious leaders, generally young men in training for the ministry, at the week-long camps to minister to the boys and leaders. At the camp my sons went to, there was usually either a Catholic priest or seminary student, a Protestant minister, and sometimes even a rabinical student. The camps usually went from Sunday evening to Saturday morning, but there was always one week that catered to those scouts who didn't travel on Saturdays for religious reasons.

Contrast that to my experience with the Girl Scouts. We had to drop our girls off on Sunday morning, which meant that our whole family couln't attend Sunday services that week, and their staff couldn't attend for the whole summer. There was no attempt as far as I could see to accomodate religious services. It just wasn't important to them.

One particular memory I had was of a massive 4-day campout here in the Los Angeles area with 15,000 scouts and leaders for the 75h anniversary of Girl Scouting. The planners had planned on having a "non-denominational" service on Sunday morning. At first they would not even permit a Catholic service to be held or the Catholic scouts to leave for a local service. When the Catholic troops threatened to boycott, they finally relented and begrudingly allowed a service at 6:30 or 7 am. I can't remember the exact time, but it was bloody early. It actually worked out fairly well for our troop, because the girls who decided to go to the planned non-denominational service had to skip some of the fun program to attend. Our service was so early that the fun stuff hadn't started yet.

One more thing. Did you know that the Girl Scouts have made the work "God" optional in their promise? Girls who don't believe in God can substitute another word if they like. Just some things for you to think about.

34 posted on 04/13/2002 8:54:25 AM PDT by Aunt Polgara
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