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To: syriacus
Here's the scenario:

A woman is in the hospital for complications with her pregnancy. The doctor tells her that if she gives birth to this baby, she will die. So the woman has two choices. She can kill her baby and live or she can give birth and die.

What does she do?

13 posted on 04/14/2002 10:24:45 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Here's the scenario:

A woman is in the hospital for complications with her pregnancy. The doctor tells her that if she gives birth to this baby, she will die. So the woman has two choices. She can kill her baby and live or she can give birth and die.

What does she do?


I don't know. Perhaps you can tell me what she did. I guess you like to dream up unlikely situations, like I do. :)

The scenario you mention is just one of the imaginative scenarios brought out in the late 60's to justify abortion.

It was used as a foot in the door, (by persons pretending they ONLY wanted to save women's lives), for abortion-on-demand (ie, killing a human for convenience).

How about this scenario--a baby is being born, breech. Her father is in the service overseas for the past 3 months. She is just beginning to emerge from the womb. The "still-legally-pregnant" woman doesn't realize, until that moment, that the female fetus is "racially mixed." The woman was sure she had taken adequate precautions, during a one night stand, nine months before. Her husband will know the child is not his.

Should the doctor follow the woman's directive and perform a partial birth abortion so the husband will not realize his wife had an affair?

14 posted on 04/14/2002 11:07:02 AM PDT by syriacus
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To: Marine Inspector
I forgot to say. If I had "given birth" at the end of my last pregnancy, my daughter would have died and most likely I would have, too.. Thanks to the wonderful advances of modern medicine, a C-Section saved both of us.
15 posted on 04/14/2002 11:12:40 AM PDT by syriacus
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To: Marine Inspector
the woman should get a second opinion... but let's answer your hypothetical situation with this :

the woman chooses the life of her child, who, growing up hearing how brave her mother was and how she died, goes to medical school and becomes a reknowned pediatric surgeon who now can save the lives of countless mothers and children, all because one brave mother chose life over death... put that in your pipe and smoke it.

18 posted on 04/14/2002 3:23:47 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: Marine Inspector
A woman is in the hospital for complications with her pregnancy. The doctor tells her that if she gives birth to this baby, she will die. So the woman has two choices. She can kill her baby and live or she can give birth and die.
What does she do?

The doctor delivers the baby by Ceasarean section and tries his best to keep BOTH mother and baby alive. There are very few instances in this day of advanced medicine where both cannot be saved.

This has been the red herring for the partial birth abortion crowd; what if there is an emergency? The answer to that is, you don't do a partial birth abortion unless you want a dead baby. Partial birth abortion takes time because a laminaria has to be inserted in order to expand the cervix; this takes several hours. In the event of a REAL emergency, no doctor is going wait that long. The mother would be in the operating room in a New York minute and the baby would be delivered. Of course, this would be a LIVE baby!

The Caring Foundation did a survey a few years ago and found just the sentiment that this article mentions. When presented with the three choices of abortion, adoption and childbirth, many young women chose abortion. They did not want to lose control of their bodies. Adoption didn't fare well because they didn't like the thought of a child of theirs floating around somewhere and not know how it was. They would rather kill it than wonder about it. That is just a SICK sentiment, but one that has been fed by popular culture since even before 1973. After all, the people had to be 'softened up' to support abortion before it became legal. Sitcoms such as 'Maude' presented it as a 'hard' but necessary 'choice' for some. So when abortion laws were struck down by Roe v. Wade, it was just a short jump from muted accepteance to full throated support. Most people don't think about it until confronted with the situation, and are willing to take the easiest and less socially messy way out.

Until society does get back to connecting sex with procreation, and young women TRULY take control of their bodies, we'll continue to have this attitude of 'my body, my choice'.

41 posted on 04/15/2002 7:35:36 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Marine Inspector
Can you give me a diagnosis that would fit your scenario? I don't know of one that is not an immediate life-endangering emergency. And none of them require the death of the child as a condition.
78 posted on 04/17/2002 8:48:12 PM PDT by hocndoc
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