[Dat]

I don't think he is blaming women per se, I think he is stating that it is foolish to trust someone who can escape the responsibility of raising a child easier than you can. If a woman engages in intercourse with a man who sleeps around, you can be assured that he will not be a good father or be the type that takes responsibility for raising a child.

I hope I am right and that this is just a case of a crossed wire.

[Lorianne]

Gee, thanks for trying to patch things up. :-)

I don't think he is blaming women per se, I think he is stating that it is foolish to trust someone who can escape the responsibility of raising a child easier than you can.

Well, I don't accept that men can "escape" the responsibility easier than women can. This is a primary reason why we have abortion. People have just "accepted" that women will be penalized for having kids and men will not be penalized. We don't have to accept this. I reject this premis in its entirety.

Many women have abortions NOT to escape pregnancy but rather to escape the completely arbitrary inequity in our system AFTER the child is born. In short, we punish women who choose not to abort, we punish children for being born. Which creates an incentive TO abort.

We need to create disincentives to abortion. Demonizing pregnancy doesn't do this. It does the opposite. Maintaining inequity in child responsibility after birth doesn't do this either. It does the opposite.

At the same time we need to create disincentives to irresponsibly pro-create. This implies PREVENTION not after the fact accusations, which get us nowhere.

As far as the sentiments proposed here, I think there are many men, even many pro-Life men, who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo inequity between women who procreate and men who pro-create. As long as this is the case, abortion will prevail.

I think this is what the thread starter article was trying to say.

[The Giant Apricots]

In the beginning, there was an implicit bargain between men and women.

She, with the greater opportunity to kill (abort) their baby, would not.

He, with the greater opportunity to walk away and desert the baby, would not.

Both halves of that deal are getting broken. Putting both halves of it back together is the foundational hope for civilization.