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Sorry for the length, but I guess this is my quarter's worth. Flame on, or add to it. That's what we're all doing here, right?
1 posted on 04/14/2002 7:10:44 PM PDT by 11B3
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To: 11B3
You don't think there's been enough venting yet? LOL!
2 posted on 04/14/2002 7:14:53 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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Great thoughts. Was the first thread deleted?
4 posted on 04/14/2002 7:18:31 PM PDT by Registered
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Democratic Socialists of America, the International Communist Party's American chapter, has been doing everything within its' powers to defeat our nation domestically - the enemy within. These vermin have 53 seats in the American Congress right now.

What is your source for this statement?
7 posted on 04/14/2002 7:22:29 PM PDT by TomGuy
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Has Everyone Gone Mad?

You could have stopped right there,as far as dealing with this situation and trying to placate the terrorist Arafat I think they have.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Benjamin Franklin

8 posted on 04/14/2002 7:23:16 PM PDT by mdittmar
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Mayday
9 posted on 04/14/2002 7:26:23 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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That was just out of anger and for show. You see he made that statement out of principle, but now he must retreat in the face of reality. Can't punish Syria, Saudi, and Iran. Would upset too many people.
10 posted on 04/14/2002 7:26:57 PM PDT by breakem
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You may be forgiven for your REALLY BIG vent. (It was hard to read, but a lot of us have been saying some of these things throughout the day in more disparate pieces). I sure as hell hope some of these sentiments will find their way to the White House -- for the administration has truly lost their way and needs to find it again QUICKLY. It does seem as if our President and his administration have gone mad. To shred the Bush Doctrine openly -- indeed to spit on it and flush down the toilet in the presence of arch-terrorist Arafat is practically beyond all belief.

To sell out an ally (allies were covered by the Bush Doctrine) on the alter of leftist, pacifist appeasement -- well, it is simply too stunning to comprehend. I am very saddened, greivously even, for I placed such hopes for our country in Mr. Bush's election, and now?????

"You had the choice between war and dishonor, you chose dishonor and you shall get war."...Winston Churchill

11 posted on 04/14/2002 7:34:58 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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Wow brother, it feels good to vent, doesn't it?! I don't think everyone has gone mad because Freepers are still sane and able to take out our frustrations on this website. I will agree that everyone else is mad, though.
12 posted on 04/14/2002 7:37:06 PM PDT by RamsNo1
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The problem is that about half the American voters are either too stupid to recognize these truths or they are knowingly on the other side. Nothing else can explain their continuing to vote for liberals and Democrats. Maybe they don't like the Republicans. Maybe they think the Republicans are no different from the Democrats. In that case, they can vote for the Reform Party, the US Taxpayers Party, the Libertarian Party or whatever other pro-American protest party they choose. However, no one votes for those parties, so the problem isn't that they see the majors as being equivalent. The problem is that about half the population supports the bad guys. Until we solve that problem, there is no solution to the others.

WFTR
What If?
Bill

14 posted on 04/14/2002 8:06:32 PM PDT by WFTR
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Why use a hammer when a bulldozer will suffice? Good question. Let's try the hammer first.
15 posted on 04/14/2002 8:11:52 PM PDT by Quicksilver
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Nuke'em today and pump (oil) tomorrow!
27 posted on 04/14/2002 9:23:23 PM PDT by The Duke
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The Bush Doctrine is dead, the anti-evildoers crusade is over and our Sec of State is running errands for Pali terrorists! ...sigh

Next time tell us how you really feel! (c;

29 posted on 04/14/2002 11:56:00 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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Wow, what a rant!!! (GOOD ONE!!!)

I have had a lot of these thoughts moving like a hurricane through my little mind. And here is what it all boils down to for me... (sorry, this is a sad story)

I actually have a frog for a friend. You know, not the "green" kind of frog..... but a French kind. And he is a good guy actually. Smart, thoughtful. For some time now, I have had the upper hand, and I could tease him about his inane customs, his inane laws, and his wimpy "Leaders". You know those Frenchies? The guys who spend the 1st week after surrender trying to find who the conqueror was?

Well, after the dance that Bush/Powell have completed, I can no longer have the upper hand... I have lost the moral authority, and he is now able to say to me "Take a good look around, you are not better than our French sissies".

It burns me, but he is in a way right. I fear it may be only days before he is 100% right.

32 posted on 04/15/2002 1:44:00 AM PDT by besieged
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What Happened to "Either You're With Us, or You're With the Terrorists"?

The days when this REALLY flied in America are long gong. Our idealism once distinguished us from the Europeans, to whom we are similar otherwise.

For a people to be able to answer the question structured as "with us or with..." most people should be able to know where the separating line is. That is, one should not who is "us" and who is "terrorist." If multi-culturalism is about anything, it is about the absence of such lines. If there was any broad tendency in our culture, as well as western in general, it is the abolition of demarcation between good and evil.

Now, after several decades of these developments, having raised several amoral generations, you expect the majority of people in this country to figure these things out?

P.S. You reminded me of a joke that I heard a long time ago and will take the risk of retelling.

In a small Jewish village in Eastern Europe, where the Rabbi was typically consulted on the matters big and small, a young couple seeks advice on how to raise their child properly. The Rabbi asks, "And how old is your child?" The father replies, "She is six months old." The Rabbi gets visibly distressed and laments, "But you are way too late to be concerned about that!"

You too, my friend, are way too late to expect people to know the demarcation of right and wrong, "us" and "them."

38 posted on 04/15/2002 8:11:49 AM PDT by TopQuark
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What Is Going On? What Happened to "Either You're With Us, or You're With the Terrorists"?

I can tell you precisely what happened:

The Muslims have successfully outmaneuvered the US by tying 'The Palestinian Problem' to 'The War on Terror'.

44 posted on 04/15/2002 1:34:47 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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BRAVO! You have said some things that have been on my mind for quite some time.

It is quite clear Bush made a tremendous mistake in choosing Colin Powell as Secretary of State. The guy is about as effective as Madeline Albrong. What makes matters worse is just when Israel has finally grabbed the bull by the horns and is taking measures to end the terrorist measures in their country, Powell comes in...to talk. The man is so freaking boneheaded he actually believes playing nicey-nice with a bloodthirsty monster like Arafat and asking Sharon to back off is going to make things better out there!

The time for talk passed many moons ago, dammit!

Let Israel finish the job, as Sharon has been asking Powell and the US.

Let's get serious about the war on terror.

Let's get Bin Laden, Arafat, Hussein, and Quaddafi, in that order, and wack 'em. Today!

62 posted on 04/16/2002 7:43:01 AM PDT by Houmatt
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Hey you could'a been on my EOD team with an explosive rant like that versus that cushy desk job your MOS suggest's ya had at some point (just teasing ya) !

Lot's of good points, valid bitch session .........just wish I had the last page in GWB's play book. Hopefully we'll see something real kewl come of all this soon.

Stay Safe !!

65 posted on 04/16/2002 11:25:47 PM PDT by Squantos
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