Posted on 04/16/2002 3:32:03 AM PDT by kattracks
How we should tremble when a gang of Jews gets together, because we know they'll inevitably erupt in a violent outburst soon after! And who would want a family of Jews moving into their neighborhood, no doubt to aid in Israeli terrorist plots, instead of some nice, peaceful Arabs?
Your post goes a long way to illustrate how incredibly assinine some of the dross we're seeing in the media really is. There is no moral equivalency between Arabs and Jews. Think I'm wrong? Who would you rather have marry your daughter?
Is that racist thinking? Perhaps, but we are discussing a clash of two peoples, not a clash of two people. Murderous deeds make a compelling case against a murderous people. Much hay is being made about the IDF invasions of terrorist dens, but let's be honest: would anyone -- including (and especially) Arabs -- show as much restraint as the Jews have in the face of such savagery?
Imal
Frost was being sarcastic, as he was in most of his famous quoted lines.
I have been struggling for some time with the image of a Berlin Wall around Israel.
I think it's going to happen.
CALL IT THE "PEACE WALL"!
I wonde how the Palestinians will feel when they can't get to their jobs? Or how the Arabs will feel when they have to build industries and educate their children in something more useful than Islamic studies?
Sloppy imagery gets people killed in this world, eventually. Please think about it.
I totally disagree here! I have read more and more articles that discuss the concept of total victory and population shifts as the only way to bring peace to the region.
Israel needs to win this war and remove the muslims from their nation. Israel must act as a conquering nation and secure its borders.
Israel has deliberately targeted and destroyed Palestinian efforts at economic development. A number of foreign companies that had invested in factories there are quite annoyed about it.
As long as Israel and Palestinians are located where they are, Israel can't afford to allow Palestine to develop. On the other hand, Palestine must be freed from Israel's oppression if it's ever going to develop. Other Arab countries, who like neither the Israelis nor the Palestinians, are perfectly happy to have them continue fighting and to encourage the Palestinians to make ill-advised attacks.
Perhaps what's needed is for Israel to identify who its real enemies are (other countries are sponsoring Palestinian terrorism) and shift some of its efforts there. If, e.g., Lebanon is supporting the terrorists, perhaps Israel could capture some land from Lebanon and give it to the Palestinians. Obviously the Lebanese may not like it (and if they're not involved in sponsoring the attacks on Israel I wouldn't recommend this approach) but it might have some good effects on Israeli-Palestinian relations.
Son of Emperor Vespasian, Titus was closely associated with his father in military campaigns, and after A.D. 71 he acted as coruler with the emperor. He served in Britain and in Germany and captured and destroyed Jerusalem in A.D. 70. (From the Columbia Encyclopedia.)
A bit more research indicates that "Fikus" is a Melanesian pidgin term referring to "any tree-like parasitic plant that grows over and eventually structurally replaces a host tree..." (see source here.) Readers may make of this what they will.
As for your response to my post, let me say this: you're a fruitloop. The fence in Gaza was in fact built to keep out terrorists, and thankfully so far has been helpful in doing so. Uppity of those Jews, ain't it, to put these obstacles in the way of Titus Arafatus?
It is extremely telling that we assume that Arab children will react savagely to Israeli military responses, while no so much as implies that Jewish children will grow up to be equally savage in response to sudden, shockingly gruesome bombings. This tacitly demonstrates what everyone knows -- even "Palestinian" apologists -- but few want to admit: that what the "Palestinians" have been doing is immoral and depraved beyond sane comprehension. Unconvincing attempts to equate the Israelis with Nazis underscore the impossibility of reconciling "Palestinian" behavior with even the most base human standards.
When you act like an animal, don't be surprised when they treat you like one. If Mexico was pulling the exact same sh*t on the U.S. for the exact same reasons, there wouldn't be any debate about it at home or abroad, and the U.S. wouldn't bat an eye before dropping bombs and rolling in the heavy armor.
The Golden Rule applies in Israel as much as anywhere else.
Imal
That still won't be wide enough to protect them from the type of rockets that are being fired at them from Lebanon. Ultimately, the Israelis are going to have to retain the right and capability of taking out any threatening military assets across their borders.
I know that the Israelis feel that all of Palestine should belong to them. The Palestinians feel just as strongly that it all belongs to them. Each side is going to have to give up something, whether they want to or not. The Israelis are going to have to pull out of their settlements for now, and accept the fact that they are trying to grab for too much. Secure national survival within a part of the promised land is preferable to assured destruction while stubbornly grasping for what is beyond their reach.
At the same time, if the Israelis must abandon their W Bank and Gaza settlements, then all of the Palestinians and "Israeli Arabs" (at least the muslim ones, Christin Arabs should be welcome to stay) need to be out of Israel as well. Better a semi-peaceful transfer of populations now than a deadly ethnic cleansing later.
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