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Packin' heat: Queen City of the Wild West
Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | 17 April 2002 | Peter Bronson

Posted on 04/17/2002 9:50:59 AM PDT by Deadeye Division

Packin' heat

Queen City of the Wild West

There was a shootout at the Queen City Club again the other day, when a hotheaded basketball coach punctuated a sportswriter with three slugs from a Colt .44. Cincinnati has been more exciting than Tombstone since everyone started packin' heat.

Well, not exactly. Actually, not at all.

For nearly five days, Cincinnati has been the most wide-open city in the Wild West. And nothing has happened.

Ohio's law barring concealed weapons was struck down in Hamilton County by a state appeals court last week, allowing anyone to carry in the county except felons, drug addicts, mental incompetents and drunks — and most of them already have guns and know how to use them.

It's not the good guys who are making Cincinnati look like Dodge City. But some tenderfoots think that if citizens can carry, there will be blood in the streets: shootouts at stoplights, showdowns at Skyline, gunfights at soccer games.

Fear phrase

“That's what we call the Chicken Little syndrome,” said Charles Riggs of Frankfort, a founder and past president of the Kentucky Coalition to Carry Concealed.

Kentucky has had a CCW law for five years. And it is now safe to say the predictions of mayhem were greatly exaggerated. “The headline, "Permit holder goes berserk, kills two,' there's nothing of that sort,” Mr. Riggs said. “We were told blood would run in the streets of Covington. It's one of the favorite fear phrases.”

Except for a homicide involving two permit-holders in traffic, the record is nearly clean, Mr. Riggs said.

And studies show crime rates drop with CCW laws, he said. “Concealed-carry permit-holders make everyone safer.”

It's about the same in 42 other states with CCW laws.

Firearms phobia

Mr. Riggs is a firearms instructor for 50 to 150 Kentucky applicants each year. “They are basically just people who refuse to be victims. They recognize there are wolves in the woods.”

He has a name for people who get the clammy sweats around guns: “hoplophobe,” meaning “an unreasoning fear of mechanical tools like firearms.”

I don't know if Ohio Gov. Bob Taft is a hoplophobe, but he is the reason Ohio has no CCW law.

“He promised to sign one,” Mr. Riggs said. “It was only after he was elected that he said, "I'll sign it, but the FOP has to approve it.'”

The Buckeye Sheriff's Association supports a CCW law, so Mr. Taft cites opposition by police chiefs and the Fraternal Order of Police. But his cover is shrinking.

Hamilton County Prosecutor Mike Allen says the law approved by the Ohio House “has strong background checks, NRA training, everything a reasonable concealed-carry bill should have. It would not hurt him politically to sign that.”

But Mr. Taft is probably stalling until after his November re-election — leaving Cincinnati in lawless limbo.

Mr. Riggs is no fan of gun laws, but says, “I think it's a very good idea to get a minimum level of instruction in the law and use of deadly force.”

Mr. Taft should help pass concealed carry and sign it. This is a showdown he can't win.

E-mail pbronson@enquirer.com or call 768-8301.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist
Ohioans for Concealed Carry

www.ohioccw.org

1 posted on 04/17/2002 9:50:59 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: bang_list


2 posted on 04/17/2002 9:57:48 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Deadeye Division
Stop the attacks on our God given Rights by the extreme wacko left !!

Guns Save Lives !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed !!

An Armed Citizen, Is A Safe Citizen !!

No Guns, No Rights !!

Molon Labe !!


3 posted on 04/17/2002 10:04:02 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Deadeye Division
You won't get any widespread gunfire until the celebrations for the Bengals winning the Super Bowl, which should happen slightly after the weather bureau releases the photos of the effects of Infernal Glaciation.
4 posted on 04/17/2002 10:21:10 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: Joe Brower
Senate delays hearings on handgun legislation

Wednesday, April 17, 2002

Lee Leonard
Columbus Dispatch Statehouse Reporter

A bill passed by the House that would allow Ohioans to carry concealed handguns on a limited basis found a home in the state Senate yesterday, but it may not be moving out of there anytime soon.

House Bill 274 was sent to the Judiciary Committee on Civil Justice, but Senate President Richard H. Finan said its future is clouded by a court ruling last Wednesday.

The 1st Ohio District Court of Appeals ruled that the state ban, as applied in Hamilton County, is unconstitutional.

Finan, a suburban Cincinnati Republican, refused even to say that committee hearings will start -- the normal process when a bill comes over from the House. He said he will decide what to do "on a day-by-day basis,'' depending on what happens in the Ohio Supreme Court.

State Attorney General Betty D. Montgomery asked for an emergency stay from the Supreme Court and is expected to appeal, a process that could take months. The high court could restore the ban in Hamilton County or overturn it throughout the state.

Finan said it would be futile to write a new handgun law before the court decides what is constitutional. "I'm hoping the Ohio Supreme Court will give some expeditious processing on this.''

House Bill 274, sponsored by Rep. James Aslanides, R-Coshocton, would authorize sheriffs to issue conceal/carry permits to individuals 21 or older who have no criminal record or history of mental illness and who pass a training course in firearms handling and safety. The House refused to consider a less restrictive conceal/carry bill.

Aslanides said he understands Finan's position but would like to see the committee start work.

"I'd like to see the Senate give it the same kind of attention we gave it (in the House),'' he said. "It would disappoint me if there is no movement on the bill in a reasonable period of time.''

Jeff Garvas, president of Ohioans for Concealed Carry, said he hopes the Senate isn't stalling.

"It's kind of sad that the Senate president doesn't have the nerve to stand up and say, 'This law is unconstitutional and needs to be changed,' '' he said. "Something needs to be done. We've gone through channels, and the court agrees with us that the law is unconstitutional. Now the legislature needs to fix it.''

Sen. Eric D. Fingerhut, D-Cleveland, a member of the Judiciary Committee and a handgun foe, said he supports Finan's call for a delay.

"It would be fruitless for the Senate to hold hearings until the court issues a final ruling,'' Fingerhut said. "Whatever the court says will dictate what the legislature does. It's difficult to hold fact-finding hearings until you know what the parameters are. If the current statute is unconstitutional, then there is going to be a need for a new statute.''

Meanwhile, the Senate voted 25- 8 for a compromise bill authorizing local school boards to set aside a daily period of silence in classrooms, with prayer as an option. The House could ratify the compromise next week as House Bill 394, sponsored by Rep. Rex Damschroder, R-Fremont. The bill also lets school boards decide whether the Pledge of Allegiance can be said in classrooms but stipulates that school boards prevent the intimidation of those who decline to participate.

Fingerhut objected to the inclusion of prayer as an option.

"It goes beyond the role of government to provide the opportunity for prayer,'' he said.

Sen. Robert F. Hagan, D- Youngstown, said the legislature was "wasting a lot of time on an issue that really doesn't improve our students. If we had more praying at home . . . we would have less problems in our schools.''

5 posted on 04/17/2002 10:37:08 AM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division
I suppose you already know, but it bears repeating, that Hamilton County and Cincinnati are now operating under exactly the same concealed carry law as the entire state of Vermont.
Vermont: not exactly the sort of place you think of when somebody brings up images of the wild and wooly West, eh?

Maybe your governor is doing you a favor; by the time November rolls around and he's ready to sign a concealed carry law, perhaps the good citizens of Ohio, or at least those paying attention, will have realized that no such law is required!

6 posted on 04/17/2002 10:41:53 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Redbob
No such law is Constitutional - if Ohio recognizes firearms carry as a right guaranteed by the State's constitution, no licensing or permitting can be required to exercise such a right. Thus ruled the Supreme Court of the US, on the basis of a First Amendment case brought before it.
7 posted on 04/17/2002 10:53:17 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: Deadeye Division
"Permit holder goes berserk, kills two,' there's nothing of that sort,”

The often undisclosed truth about concealed carry is that generally, the law abiding citizen that chooses to carry a gun GOES TO GREAT LENGTHS TO AVOID CONFRONTATION.

Laws only apply to citizens with SOMETHING TO LOSE if the law is broken, and law abiding CCW permit holders understand EXPLICITLY what's at stake if they abuse the privilege.

The perception that carrying a gun turns ordinary citizens into Wyatt Earp wannabes couldn't be any further from the truth.

8 posted on 04/17/2002 12:13:11 PM PDT by xsrdx
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To: xsrdx
Bump
9 posted on 04/17/2002 6:32:06 PM PDT by Deadeye Division
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To: Deadeye Division
What is the incident of homocide involving two CCW holders?
10 posted on 04/18/2002 8:18:28 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Deadeye Division
I would rather the state supreme court
have to rule the existing law unconstitutional
than have Taft sign any bill.
Vermont style ccw is what Cincy has now and what the constitution calls for.
11 posted on 04/18/2002 9:04:27 AM PDT by CONSERVE
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To: xsrdx
It's not a privelege, it's a right. Didn't you read this article? ;-)
12 posted on 04/19/2002 6:18:08 PM PDT by mvpel
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