1 posted on
04/22/2002 12:23:58 PM PDT by
Doug Loss
To: *Microsoft
To: Doug Loss
Why aren't all of these perpetually (supposedly) budget-strapped public schools ALREADY running Linux? Maybe this will inspire them to do so.
To: Doug Loss
They out to send a report to Microsoft that says 84,275 computers, all using Linux.
4 posted on
04/22/2002 12:42:55 PM PDT by
eFudd
To: Doug Loss
So? Businesses and corporations are
expected to pay the licensing fees, why shouldn't the school system?
I'm no fan of Microsoft's products, but I do feel they've been improperly vilified. Ostensibly because they didn't donate enough to the democRATs. Microsoft has probably gotten fed up with the b.s. from all sides and finally just said screw 'em all.
To: tech_index, Dominic Harr, Bush2000
*ping*
8 posted on
04/22/2002 1:13:06 PM PDT by
B Knotts
To: Doug Loss
Microsoft is well within its rights to call for an audit. "They just want to squeeze every nickel out of us they can."Piss off.
9 posted on
04/22/2002 1:19:05 PM PDT by
gcruse
To: Doug Loss
25,000 computers, assume 5 year average life, also assume new software with new computers.
Windows at $70, Office educational edition at $100. Also 1000 (for the older kids) copys of Dev studio leaning edition at about $100. That's in the neighborhood of a million a year.
On it face it seems like the license terms will save the schools money. Also allow the schools to install uniform OS's and tools across all machines. If MS wants this kind of money just for windows though they should get stuffed.
Except the schools would have to buy 'naked PCs' and install all the software thmselves. But with students messing with things (I deleted the /system32 folder, Microsoft messed up my PC!) the schools have got to have the reinstall process down pat.
11 posted on
04/22/2002 1:24:39 PM PDT by
Dinsdale
To: Doug Loss
"Schools and government agencies that are paying for Microsoft Office are wasting money," Nelson said. "They should be using free software. A lot of this stuff has become generic. It doesn't take a fancy program to make something bold."
Schools and government agencies that are paying for useless teachers and bureaucrats are wasting money," Bush2000 said. "They should fire them."
12 posted on
04/22/2002 1:24:43 PM PDT by
Bush2000
To: Doug Loss
I think it's typical of the habitually ruthless to bring to bear the most unreasonable pressure at the most inconvenient time. . . . all very legally proper, of course. . . at times. . . . in some contexts. . . .
13 posted on
04/22/2002 1:28:06 PM PDT by
Quix
To: Doug Loss
"I have a more simplistic view," said John Rowlands, director of information services for the Seattle School District: "They just want to squeeze every nickel out of us they can." I have an even more simplistic view, Mr. Rowlands. It rolls around my head saying you know you have waaaaaaayy too many unlicensed copies of MS products on your systems.
WinLan or EMGT could get this inventory for you in a matter of days.
23 posted on
04/22/2002 1:45:40 PM PDT by
Cable225
To: Doug Loss
But Microsoft has put a new spin on the agreement, requiring an "institution-wide commitment." That means the district must include in its count not only the PCs, but all the iMacs and Power Macs that might conceivably use Windows software. This is rich, but its not new. Micro$$oft did this to the OEM's years back when it extracted a fee on systems without an OS because users might put a copy of dos/windoze on it.
To: Doug Loss
Been there, done that, told microsoft to sue us or go fornicate with themselves.
They appear to have chosen the second option
To: Doug Loss
News flash: They did the same thing in Texas. Our district has been notified that teachers should haver their computers available for this audit.
To: Doug Loss
the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is pouring millions of dollars into small, high-tech high schoolsBill and Melinda redistribute the wealth. Ain't communism grand?
78 posted on
04/22/2002 6:32:12 PM PDT by
FreePaul
To: Doug Loss
Paul Nelson, a teacher at Riverdale, and Eric Harrison with Multnomah ESD have developed a thin-client software called K12LTSP that runs Linux. In the last nine months, they've distributed the software to 5,000 schools. "Schools and government agencies that are paying for Microsoft Office are wasting money," Nelson said. "They should be using free software. A lot of this stuff has become generic. It doesn't take a fancy program to make something bold."
Me thinks this has something to do with MS's targeting them.
96 posted on
04/23/2002 8:09:51 AM PDT by
texlok
To: Doug Loss
Hmmm... Macintosh
132 posted on
04/23/2002 4:44:23 PM PDT by
PsyOp
To: Doug Loss
Schools are being asked to be honest and accountable. Wow! We will have to watch this story and see what happens.
To: Doug Loss
""A rough number? $500,000," Robinson said, "which translates, roughly, into 10 teaching positions." "Or one big fat bonus to administrators, or new administrator office furniture, or another wasted "conference", or many other things besides "teachers".
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