After scanning the story of Algeria, I have to say you are right. The polarization of a society leads to Military suppression of civil unrest followed by a Leninist overthrow of the military...Unbelievable! But on the other hand, if a case can be made in the public eye that the Caliphate is the ultimate goal of Wahabbi's which I believe it is...We are talking about organized conspiracy to destabilize the United States Government. They HIT THE PENTAGON!!!!! did I put enough exclamation points in there? They are militarizing for unconventional warfare on our soil...who cares if we're going to kick their ass once they poke their stinky heads out of the ground over here...I want active operations on THEIR turf, starting with IRAQ. But I digress...
We're talking about home grown grass roots financing, intelligence gathering, facilitating and recruitment of terrorism in Springfield USA(obscure Simpson's reference). We have a Springfield Mosque with a school and a social calender and a standard amount of tithing for the poor which is a lovely sentiment except they only care about Muslim poor(and Martyr per capita output) as far as I've read. Are fatwas from Osama being recited in the service? Are there discussions about killing infidels in Jihad right this instant in the country where we live in the service? Glorifying martyrs for killing noncombatants?(Here is where you and I agree that there is a slippery slope...I recently read where Mohammed himself advocated killing the family of an infidel who had wronged him because they were all attached-all one. If that is really mainstream Islam, then my head hurts.) I'd like to draw a line in religious tenets that forbids random terrorism, but allows them to wave their AK47's in the air and blow off steam...We can kick their ass in conventional war and they know it. "Maybe Allah will weaken the Jews in the next generation and we can jihad them some more then, Achmed, don't Bogart that pita!..."
If the Saudi's can reign in the Mullahs to stop applauding the random killing of innocents...not eschewing Jihad...just keeping it man to man. Then their honor is preserved and we don't have to uproot a culture. If Jihad is the only way to paradise and security around infidel targets is so tight that the Wahabbi's can't prevail with conventional weapons...we're back to baby bombers unless we can get them to accept that that is unIslamic.
Maybe by outright saying you Mullah's failure to change your fatwas will result immediately in the nuking of Mecca, in effect you are showing disrespect to future generations of Muslims(I could have been an advertising agent!). But I don't know if that will have as much of an effect as we'd like to think...The Wahabbi deal GOES for mutilation by the enemy...I mean they WANT to show up at the Gates with their balls in their hand. That masochism might apply to their holy places as well. The ultimate martyr, a building over a meteorite...Jeeze.
Things we don't control...Al Jazeera, The Mullah's, EU press antisemitism, The French(who'd want to?), terror cells already gone to "sleep" within the muslim community- untraceable by common sense surveillance of services and social gatherings of militant mosques, the Liberal US Press. We have counterpropaganda which I understand is gearing up nicely to offset AJ. We have Saudi Arabia's economy which we can screw up pretty well assuming China, North Korea, and Russia don't take up the technological slack, said economic pressure might moderate the Mullahs. EU Press condemnation...SJ, was it you that predicted that Jews might exodus Europe? That might have a bigger impact on their economy than our efforts against the Saudis;-) Sleeper Cells...Very bad...Any success they achieve is a miracle from Allah...anticipate, investigate, interrogate, deport.
And last we have the Indefatigable Liberal Press who will attack every one of these strategies as being reactionary, paranoid, and upsetting for the children...They have to be led to the well(and convinced it was their idea) to drink the water of enlightenment that they are personally in danger of being poisened, blown up, or.. purified:-) I can't see Greta Van Susteran putting a Burqha over her new plastic surgery. The press mentality is elitist...They sit outside human affairs and judge them...They might be vulnerable to being Judged by the Wahabbi's on some unexpected aspect of their(perceived) benefit to society...being part of the Israeli massacre machine for instance...Any taint that a journalist contributed to a gun going off would cause him to be drawn and quartered...I was amazed that Geraldo admitted to packing in Afghanistan. A taint of corruption in the media, taking bribes, Cowardice, might shame them into showing some concern for protecting human life in Israel and the US. Or how about this...Public Acclamation for uncovering the Wahabbi agenda...a carrot that promises them double their current viewer ratings without having to abandon their slovenly reporting ways...Sort of coopting the liberal media by absorbing them into the new patriotic external threat mode that we really are going to have to adopt...The press behaved rather like the democrats shortly after 9/11...They kind of basked in past glory of having a clean conscience without the self analysis and resultant loathing for what they are now. Purification granted not by the Wahabbi's but by the right...that's a whole days worth of thought, but I might try it...Jim Morrison said what people want is something Sacred...what can we offer the libs...hmmm. </ stream of consciousness>
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That's an old communist tactic. Arafat is trying exactly this. Pallies have become poorer and poorer the last decade. Pallie economy is trashed. These factors work for communist revolutionaries. On the other hand Israel and the USA are aware from history that these are tried and true tactics and will do best to counter them.
This is a war we need to win at the source, which is in the middle east. If you value our freedoms (and they don’t) moving against mosques or Islamic schools will be an exercise in futility. They know our freedoms, and just how far they can push the envelope. We’ll never stay ahead of them by suppressing our freedoms. Witness the multitudes of detentions after 9/11. Lots of deportations, I have no doubt that many cells were broken up, but not many prosecutions on serious charges. You’re right about the objectives of fundamental Islam, but if we defeat it overseas, the cells here will wither.
As you know, I'm uncertain that we're committed to winning it "over there".