What part of "NO personal attacks" do you not understand? You might consider that what you see in others may just be a reflection of yourself.
How do you cut a deal with a "leader" that wants it all and will not compromise? They could have had the Barak Peace Plan, but opted for War instead.
One (of many) explanations of this goes as follows: The Palestinians were promised certain land but Israel continued to allow/encourage settlements on that land thereby incrementally taking power away from the Palestinians. The Barak Peace Plan offered a large percentage of what was originally supposed to be Palestinian land. This was seen as still incrementally taking land. If it was agreed upon that Palestine consisted of X amount of land, why should they not get all of that land. Israel had established a pattern of incrementally taking Palestinian land (through the settlements) and the Barak Plan sanctioned this. As repulsive as that weasel Arafat is, his actions have some logic if you look at it this way. I am not saying Arafat is necessarily right, but he and the Palestinians think he is right and they are willing to fight for their land - that is not just hate.
They're only fighting for their land only in the context of the destruction of the State of Israel. They've never wavered from that goal since the founding of the PLO in 1964.
They agreed to give back 95 % of the pre-67 land back and the other 5 % they offered to substitute Israeli land in the Gallillee (total about 100%)
So instead of accepting that deal, or countering it with something close or anything whatsoever, Arafat stormed out and chose to have teenagers sneak in and blow themselves and innocent children and other civilians to pieces (close to 500 victims)
You are wrong, BTW. It has no logic associated with it. Just hate. Sometimes one side is more wrong (a lot more wrong) than the other.. Duh!
Mr. Semper,
When I read your 1st post in this thread, I clicked on your profile fully expecting to find a "disruptor" who has just joined FR. I must say I was shocked to find a long time member of the armed forces.
I am happy to provide some facts or at least puzzles for you to figure out.
Myth: The Palestinians were promised certain land
Yes, and that land is now called Jordan. In fact, originally, in the Balfour declaration, it was the JEWS who were promised that land. But due to the Arab rage over the proposal, the Jewish land was divided in two, then divided in two again... so only 18% of that original "promised land" was actually awarded to Israel. Then, in 1967, when Israel was attacked by the "war loving neighbors", they got their butts kicked and in the process, Israel took over that "west bank", which was at that time Jordan. According to international law, Israel has the right to that land until a negotiated peace is signed with JORDAN! Well, JORDAN does not want that land back, a fact that is conveniently burried by the media. HOW IN THE WORLD does this situation give legitimacy to a terrorist trying to set up his own fiefdom??? Where are Arafat's claims?
Myth: The PLO is fighting for the land
Fact: Israel took over the West Bank in 1967. PLO was established in 1964. Two things to notice: From 1964 to 1967, there was not struggle for liberation, even though the land was "occupied" by Jordan. Also, the credo of the PLO is the destruction of Israel, 3 years BEFORE it occupied the West bank.
I hope you will reflect on these items.
Regards