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20% Of New Zealand Military Gay Study Says
365gay.com ^ | 4/27/02 | Peter Hacker

Posted on 04/27/2002 1:36:31 PM PDT by LarryLied

(April 27, Christchurch, NZ) A New Zealand government consultant says 20 percent of the military is either gay or lesbian.

Eugene Moore, an equal employment opportunity consultant, said Friday that the New Zealand Defence Force is light years ahead of any other military services in its approach to gays, lesbians and bisexuals.

Moore said that while many countries, including Canada, and much of the European Union have banned discrimination against gays in the military, none is doing as much as New Zealand to challenge "the old homophobic military culture."

"It's like Dracula, once you bring it out into the light it dies," said Moore, who has been working on an education programme for the armed forces for more than a year.

He said the programme was designed to create an environment where gays, lesbians and bisexual personnel in the military did not fear coming out.

Australian and French admirals had visited New Zealand specifically to see the Navy's at-sea education programmes and he had been invited to make a presentation to Australian military chiefs.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
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1 posted on 04/27/2002 1:36:31 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
I would assume more lesbians than gays...
2 posted on 04/27/2002 1:41:13 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: shaggy eel
fyi
3 posted on 04/27/2002 1:44:45 PM PDT by Willie Green
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4 posted on 04/27/2002 1:49:19 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: LarryLied
20% Of New Zealand Military Gay Study Says

Wow! That's less than half the percentage of the general population.

5 posted on 04/27/2002 1:52:32 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: LarryLied
Well, in Plato's Symposium, Eryximachus says that if you had a whole army of lovers, they would be undefeatable, since each soldier would be anxious never to let himself be shamed or dishonored in front of his beloved. But he was thinking more in terms of fighters like Achilles and Patroclus, not Janet and Donna.
6 posted on 04/27/2002 1:55:28 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: LarryLied
I always said never trust those Aussies and Zealanders, they been upside down for so long it has affected their brains and their sexual mores. Next thing they will not be allowed to have guns to play with either.
7 posted on 04/27/2002 1:57:23 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Cicero
Think they gravitate to certain fields in the military?
8 posted on 04/27/2002 1:57:39 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: xm177e2
Come on....you knew they were called "Kiwis" for a reason.............
9 posted on 04/27/2002 2:02:17 PM PDT by Castlebar
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To: Cicero
I think an army of anthropophobic lesbians could be very effective--especially in the Middle East.
10 posted on 04/27/2002 2:06:17 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: LarryLied
The smug, question-begging assumptions in this, are certainly striking. It seems to never even occur to these people, that making deviants comfortable about coming "out of the closet," is not the only issue involved!

I have never visited New Zealand. I understand that it is very beautiful, and always wanted to see it. Now I am not so sure. My real reaction to this is sadness--real sadness.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

11 posted on 04/27/2002 2:07:07 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Savage Beast
I believe 'androphobic' is the inkhorn term you seek.
12 posted on 04/27/2002 2:16:35 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Ohioan
365gay.com copyrighted this story with no attribution. It is almost word for word what the New Zealand Herald printed today.
13 posted on 04/27/2002 2:19:42 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
From Something Awful:

14 posted on 04/27/2002 2:21:35 PM PDT by jodorowsky
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To: xm177e2
I would have assumed more 'zoo' types. Probably includes gay 'zoo' types too.

Some tax or subsidy policy in the 1980s gave rise to a sheep/person ratio upwards of 25/1.

Don't know what it stablized to when market forces brought them back to reality.
Wonder if sheep contribute to global warming. Probably not as much as the volcanic activity in NZ.

15 posted on 04/27/2002 2:23:08 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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From Something Awful:

If that's an authentic old poster...I suspect the artist(s) who made it must have
been laughing when it was approved for distribution!
16 posted on 04/27/2002 2:30:38 PM PDT by VOA
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To: proxy_user
Yes. Androphobic. Thank you. It's the blood-thirsty terrorists that are anthropophobic.
17 posted on 04/27/2002 3:21:25 PM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: LarryLied
It gives a new meaning to the acronym REMF's doesn't it.
18 posted on 04/27/2002 3:35:06 PM PDT by weikel
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To: proxy_user
I believe 'androphobic' is the inkhorn term you seek.

Is that "fear of androids"?

19 posted on 04/27/2002 3:51:55 PM PDT by marron
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To: aimlow
And all those nice group showers!!!
20 posted on 04/27/2002 3:54:32 PM PDT by aimlow
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