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To: UnBlinkingEye
Why were those Jewish employees of a moving company cheering, laughing and celebrating the attack? It seems they may have associations with Israeli intelligence.

Another question: didn't the Israeli people resort to terrorism to found their state? The attack on the King David Hotel and other attacks on Arab villages?

I'm not claiming to be an expert here, I'm just curious.

I will take you at your word that you are just curious, rather than a disruptor or an apologist for the Arabs.

Regarding the alleged celebrating by the "Jewish moving company," I would like to see the evidence of this - and not just "tinfoil hat" evidence, but real evidence, like numerous non-retracted stories in reputable US newspapers and magazines, as well as the same on numerous reputable US television and radio stations. I don't believe that you'll find any of that, but you will find lots of such stories about Arabs here and the Mideast celebrating the WTC massacre. Also, don't you think that the thousands of FBI and CIA employees, to say nothing of the NYPD investigators, would have gotten to the bottom of this. After all, if the real enemy was Israel, don't you think it would be easier to wipe them off the map than 21 Arab nations with over 300 million people? As for the alleged ties to Israeli intelligence, the same analysis applies. By the way, I strongly believe that this entire premise, that Israel is responsible for the WTC massacre, is simply part of the BIG LIE being perpetrated by various Arab nations and their sympathizers for the purpose of shifting the blame to the Israelis.

Regarding terrorism and the founding of the Israeli state: the King David Hotel was, indeed, a target. However, it was a target because it was British military HQ, not because it was a civilian target. Furthermore (and far more important from the perspective of morality), those responsible for that action called the British in advance to warn them of the impending explosion. They only wanted to destroy the building, not commit an atrocity. The British chose to disbelieve or ignore the warning, so dozens died. Regarding Arab villages, I will only say that the Israelis wanted to live with the Arabs, that they offered to do so before 1948 and virtually continuously since. There may have been individuals, or even relatively small units, that engaged in atrocities, but this was never official policy. Contrast that with the actions and policy of the Arabs today. Contrast that with the Arab massacres of Jews in Hebron in 1929 and throughout the area in the 1936-1939 riots. Contrast that with the Arab governments' repeated threats from 1948-1967 to "push the Jews into the sea." I think that you should get the point, if you are actually just curious.

Getting back to the topic of this thread, don't you think it rather unusual that the Israelis/Jews are blamed by virtually all of the press and most world governments merely for defending themselves? Well, it is not unusual when the nations opposing Israel are led by the Arab world, which controls much of the world's oil. It is also not unusual to see rampant anti-semitism, masquerading as anti-Israel (or anti-Sharon) statements from Europe, a continent that has brought us such wonders of morality as the Crusades, the Inquisition, multiple pogroms, expulsions and outright attempts at the genocide of not only Jews, but many other "undesireable" peoples. This miserable continent, which brought the world the "benefits" of Fascism, National Socialism, Communism and Socialism - this continent has not completely changed its stripes in only 2 generations. To be fair, many individuals have, and many governments there have expressed their unwillingness to replay the past, but you have much more of the contrary.

But let's get down to brass tacks, let's discuss whether their actions since March 29 were justified (or even long overdue): What would this nation do in similar circumstances, especially given our reaction to the WTC massacre? What would we do if terrorists from Mexico came into this country and started murdering American citizens? Oh, wait, that already happened - go back to your history books and see what we did when Pancho Villa and his henchmen started murdering Americans. To save you the time, I'll tell you: we sent half the Army into Mexico looking for the SOB, that's what. And we'd do it again. This is no different than what Israel is doing now.

25 posted on 04/29/2002 8:32:13 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr
Your #25 well worth a read. ;^)

I really don't get why so many folks have a deep-seated need to blame 'the jews'.

Always...'Blame the Jews'...it's a puzzle to me...I'm serious! It is a genuine puzzle!

I can understand ignorant Arabs being caught up in the propaganda war, but supposedly civilized and educated Europeans and Americans??!

The only minor consolation is that these Western dupes are too witless to be truly evil.

27 posted on 04/29/2002 11:36:08 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Ancesthntr
Bump, eloquently stated.
32 posted on 04/29/2002 5:26:49 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Ancesthntr
I think you are stating official Israeli positions that may or may not be true. I am sorry for every person who dies in this conflict and their families. Wouldn't it be better if each side committed to peace and an acceptable solution?

My prayers for all.

33 posted on 04/29/2002 10:25:57 PM PDT by UnBlinkingEye
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