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Being Green At Ben & Jerry s
MSNBC.com ^ | 04/30/02 | George Will

Posted on 04/30/2002 9:38:46 AM PDT by gubamyster

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1 posted on 04/30/2002 9:38:46 AM PDT by gubamyster
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ANWR could produce, for 25 years, at least as much oil as America currently imports from Saudi Arabia.

The problem with most articles about America's dependence on foreign oil is that the author's are often woefully ignorant. Some estimates indicate that the tar sands region in northern Alberta could produce enough oil to sustain the current level of consumption in all of North America for the next 500 years. The problem is that it isn't terribly cost-effective to get most of the stuff out of the ground.

Even if ANWR were opened tomorrow, the U.S. would still import oil from the cheapest sources all over the globe. And you can be sure that the high cost of U.S. labor and a strong U.S. dollar will make ANWR oil far more costly to extract than oil from anywhere else in the world.

2 posted on 04/30/2002 9:49:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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Of course, Ben and Jerry can afford gasoline at $ 3/gallon. Typical Marxist bums.
3 posted on 04/30/2002 9:49:44 AM PDT by pabianice
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The United States has the world’s largest proven reserves of coal. But Mike Oliver, a retired physicist and engineer, and John Hospers, professor emeritus of philosophy at USC, note that in 1996 President Clinton put 68 billion tons of America’s cleanest-burning coal, located in Utah, off-limits for mining, ostensibly for environmental reasons. If every existing U.S. electric power plant burned coal, the 68 billion tons could fuel them for 45 years at the current rate of consumption. Now power companies must import clean-burning coal, some from mines owned by Indonesia’s Lippo Group, the heavy contributor to Clinton, whose decision about Utah’s coal vastly increased the value of Lippo’s coal.

I am of the opinion that this decision could be easily reversed.

And we wouldn't even need to redefine what the meaning of the word 'is', is.

4 posted on 04/30/2002 9:52:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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in 1996 President Clinton put 68 billion tons of America’s cleanest-burning coal, located in Utah, off-limits for mining, ostensibly for environmental reasons.

WRONG! Clinton put it off limits as a campaign cash pay off to Riadi (sp?). Guess who has the 2nd largest reserve... Indonesia!

6 posted on 04/30/2002 9:57:47 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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Ask Ted Turner.
7 posted on 04/30/2002 9:58:16 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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I suppose you also think that George Soros and Ted Turner are fully dedicated to capitalism, right?

Ben and Jerry are wackos plain and simple.
8 posted on 04/30/2002 9:59:55 AM PDT by bourbon
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They may not be "Marxist bums" when it comes to their own interests, but they sure are @ssholes.

About ten years ago the company was an active supporter in a grassroots campaign to keep one of the large big-box stores (I think it was Wal-Mart) out of Vermont. The state has always had a reputation for being extremely protective of its rural image (often to the detriment of their own financial well-being).

One of the newspapers did a little research and found out that even as they were opposing the construction of the state's first Wal-Mart store, Ben & Jerry's had already signed an agreement with Wal-Mart giving them the exclusive right to operate ice cream stands within Wal-Mart stores in Vermont once they did get built.

9 posted on 04/30/2002 10:01:42 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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Yeah Phantom! Good burn comeback!
10 posted on 04/30/2002 10:08:23 AM PDT by Bommer
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Oh, and Ben & Jerry do not own the company any more. They ran it into the ground after achieving great success and were on the verge of bankruptcy. They had to sell out to a big "evil" corporation.
11 posted on 04/30/2002 10:10:43 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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BFLR
13 posted on 04/30/2002 10:12:28 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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Phantom Lord the story agrees with your point..

Clinton put 68 billion tons of America’s cleanest-burning coal, located in Utah, off-limits for mining, ostensibly for environmental reasons ........
.....Now power companies must import clean-burning coal, some from mines owned by Indonesia’s Lippo Group, the heavy contributor to Clinton, whose decision about Utah’s coal vastly increased the value of Lippo’s coal.

ostensibly = supposedly = appears to be (but not really)

15 posted on 04/30/2002 10:18:04 AM PDT by tophat9000
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Sorry about the size, but scaled down it's hard to see some of the details.

When I lived in ALaska, I don't remember to many people living that far north, heck for that matter, I don't remember any people WANTING to live that far north! After passing the arctic circle, (Which in well below the ANWR site), there was no desire for myself to even go exploring farther.

16 posted on 04/30/2002 10:19:21 AM PDT by KineticKitty
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Top 10 rejected Ben & Jerry flavors (From David Letterman, 02/21/97)

10. Rocky Roadkill

9. Cholesterol Chunk

8. Fudge Wapner

7. It Came from Wolf Blitzer's Beard

6. Contraceptive Crunch

5. Last Will and Testa-Mint

4. Marv Sherbert

3. Richard Simmons' Fruit Swirl

2. Michael Jackson's White Chocolate

1. Cookies 'n' Crack

17 posted on 04/30/2002 10:19:48 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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Actually, the Bill Gates that was running ads and promoting higher taxes and the continuance of the inheritance tax was Bill Gates Sr., Microsoft Bill's dad.

And as is the case with most hard core lefties, capatilism is fine for them, but not for you. The rules and dictates of socialism do not apply to them, but to the "lessors."

18 posted on 04/30/2002 10:21:50 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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Top 10 Least Popular Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream Flavors - (David Letterman October 18, 1989)

10. Oprah Mocha

9. Raspberry Rash

8. Norieggnog

7. Cholesterol Chip

6. Zsa Zsa Gaboreo

5. Tiny Filaments O'Tungsten

4. Uninhibited by Cher

3. Stuff-Found-in-Ben-&-Jerry's-Pockets

2. Bus Depot Fudge

1. Hitler Ripple

19 posted on 04/30/2002 10:23:52 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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Bump for Hagen Daz
20 posted on 04/30/2002 10:24:14 AM PDT by Helms
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