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China weighs in on sale of Australian submarine builder
JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY | MAY 01, 2002 | IAN BOSTOCK

Posted on 05/03/2002 11:53:00 PM PDT by Dundee

China weighs in on sale of Australian submarine builder
IAN BOSTOCK JDW Correspondent Sydney

The Australian government's sale of the 'order-starved' Australian Submarine Corporation (ASC) has encountered difficulties because China has expressed strong concerns over any US companies buying an interest in the Adelaide-based submarine builder.

According to a report in The Australian, China's foreign minister is set to warn the Australian government against selling a stake in ASC to US interests during Prime Minister John Howard's visit to Beijing on 23 May. While the USA has no extant capacity to design and build diesel-electric submarines, China fears that US access to diesel-electric submarine technology could be the key enabler to the USA fulfilling its pledge to supply conventional submarines to Taiwan.

ASC recently delivered the last of six 3,000-tonne Collins-class submarines to the Royal Australian Navy, and it is anticipated that once the installation of a Replacement Combat System is completed around 2005, the class will be among the most capable and advanced diesel-electric submarines in the wider Asian region. With plans to privatise ASC this year, Australia has already signalled its preference to secure General Dynamics Electric Boat Corporation (EBC) as the "capability partner" for ASC, with EBC currently undertaking a scoping study of ASC's capabilities and work prospects. A key consideration will be ASC's perceived ability to attract export orders for new submarines in the Asian region.

A share of ASC, which may represent up to 40% ownership, would provide EBC access to sensitive conventional submarine design, platform, performance and combat system technology and expertise.

While Jane's Defence Weekly understands that the Australian government is currently not in favour of selling submarines to Taiwan, transfer of the necessary technology to and construction of conventional submarines at EBC's US yard could circumvent the issue.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aussielist; chinastuff
A share of ASC, which may represent up to 40% ownership, would provide EBC access to sensitive conventional submarine design, platform, performance and combat system technology and expertise.

While Jane's Defence Weekly understands that the Australian government is currently not in favour of selling submarines to Taiwan, transfer of the necessary technology to and construction of conventional submarines at EBC's US yard could circumvent the issue.

I predicted this over a year ago. I'd love for Australia to build the submarines but if not then Electric Boat can have all the data they want.

Stick it to the PRC!

1 posted on 05/03/2002 11:53:00 PM PDT by Dundee
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To: Dundee
While the USA has no extant capacity to design and build diesel-electric submarines, China fears that US access to diesel-electric submarine technology could be the key enabler to the USA fulfilling its pledge to supply conventional submarines to Taiwan.

Oh, please. We have no extant capacity to design and build rickshaws either. But I assure you, our first prototype would be ten times better than anything the Chinese have turned out in 5,000 years.

2 posted on 05/04/2002 12:15:09 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
anecdotal corroboration...A business associate of mine went to China one time and in one lab, they had a state of the art gas chromatograph, an Electron microcope, and next to it a little guy with thick glasses, a hammer and an alphanumeric punch set, manually tapping serial numbers into little name plates digit by digit...When the Chicoms can put ten men in to avoid buying one machine...its a good trade... ain't no way to run a navy.
3 posted on 05/04/2002 2:17:51 AM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: tallhappy; b4ranch; maui_hawaii; t-shirt; hopalong; backhoe; Rain-maker; Slyfox; Asclepius...

FYI

4 posted on 05/04/2002 5:47:36 AM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: *china stuff;*Aussie_list
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
5 posted on 05/04/2002 8:35:12 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Dundee
While the USA has no extant capacity to design and build diesel-electric submarines, China fears that US access to diesel-electric submarine technology could be the key enabler to the USA fulfilling its pledge to supply conventional submarines to Taiwan.

This is a hoax post, like one from The Onion or BSNN, right ?

The communist Chinese are not really claiming this, are they ?

Apologies for omitting the necessary "psychotic" as a prefix to "communist Chinese" above. Its a given.
6 posted on 05/04/2002 8:45:05 AM PDT by pyx
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To: Dundee
The Australian government has already decided to be a vassal state for China.

This is just more of it.

7 posted on 05/04/2002 12:37:31 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Dundee; Enemy Of The State
Stick it to the PRC Bump!
EOTS - thanks for bringing my attention to this. Very interesting.
8 posted on 05/06/2002 12:48:29 PM PDT by batter
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bttt
9 posted on 05/06/2002 1:14:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Hopalong
Thanks for the link on this one. Lets see what Australia does with this one, it might show who is who on the Asian totem pole.
10 posted on 05/06/2002 7:21:20 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Rightwing2, Askel5
Bump for you people. Those Chinese have some nerve. LOL!
11 posted on 05/06/2002 7:22:21 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: pyx
This is why the US isn't building the Subs yet. The US doesn't have the capability to build them. I think the US is shopping around because if my memory serves me, Germany was on a short list to build some for the US for Taiwan.
12 posted on 05/06/2002 7:24:27 PM PDT by Sawdring
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