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1 posted on 05/06/2002 7:06:08 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
There may be 10% homosexual factor in the priesthood, but in the general population I would bet it's closer to 1%.
2 posted on 05/06/2002 7:11:40 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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Mary Louise Cervone has been a practicing Roman Catholic all her life and, as a lesbian, has long hoped for acceptance from the church.

I could be wrong here, but how can one be GAY and a Practicing Catholic? Homosexuality is forbidden in the Catholic Church, isn't it?

Isn't this just another attempt by the lamestream media to "normalize" homosexuality?

4 posted on 05/06/2002 7:18:50 AM PDT by usconservative
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Gay Catholic???

That’s an oxymoron if I’ve ever heard one. Are there pedophile Catholics too?

7 posted on 05/06/2002 7:27:10 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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"I think the church tries to be open to all Catholics who are accepting of the church's teachings," Walsh said. "It's a difficult point for homosexual Catholics that the church condemns homosexual activity." ... Some wonder why homosexuals would stick with the church. Gay Catholics say their faith is a piece of their identity. "It isn't an option for me," said Tom Streeper another member of Dignity in Philadelphia. "That's the way I was raised and it's part of who I am."
Thanks for posting this article -- it points out just how deep the misunderstanding is concerning Catholicism and homosexuality.

Dignity/USA, which is described in the article as being "banned from meeting in Philadelphia churches," is an outlaw group of Catholics who are practicing homosexuals and who consider being "gay" a gift from God. Dignity has, in fact, been banned by the Vatican from meeting in any Catholic Church.

There is, however, a ministry to Catholics with same-sex attractions called Courage, which is endorsed by the Pontifical Council for the Family. They practice chastity (that is, they do not act out their sexual disorders). In fact, they don't even call themselves "gay."

The Church continues to teach that homosexual acts are always gravely sinful. Whether AP knows it or not, it is shilling for the banned group "Dignity" at the expense of "Courage." People like Tom Streeper, quoted above, are acting contrary to Church teaching when they encourage Catholics to submit, embrace and act out their homosexual temptations. They are merely cultural catholics, not practicing Catholics.

10 posted on 05/06/2002 7:48:14 AM PDT by eastsider
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Both Dignity/USA, which has been banned from meeting in Philadelphia churches, and New Ways plan to speak on behalf of gay Catholic rights at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' general meeting in Dallas beginning June 13.

Have we got Catholic FReepers down there who could attend and tape for us?

13 posted on 05/06/2002 7:57:57 AM PDT by Askel5
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This Lady doesn't have to worry whether the Church accepts her. It's God she needs to be concerned about.
14 posted on 05/06/2002 7:58:33 AM PDT by marty60
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Let the gays pretend they are not promiscuous .... everybody knows they are lying. I lived in Long Beach, California for four years and watched gays flood into the community from all over the East Coast. Things got so bad that decent people were afraid to go near the beach or the parks in the evening because of sexual activities going on in parked cars and out in the open. Gay prostitutes were working the streets openly and the cops were not making arrests.

It was not uncommon to see older gay men with teenage boys. Gays are into 'Chicken Hawking' and everybody knows it.

In the meantime, the Catholic Church has been tightening up seminary student admissions with stringent admission policies and better background checks. Admissions tightening has been going on for many years.

Read report here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/678356/posts

IMHO, the Catholic Church should be able to deflect this sex scandal as the truth about homosexual conduct begins to come out. NAMBLA exists for a reason.

15 posted on 05/06/2002 8:01:42 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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Condemn the sin. Love the sinner. This must always be the way of Christians. It is the way of Christ.
16 posted on 05/06/2002 8:02:15 AM PDT by pke
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Homosexual Priests: A Time for Truth

Diocese too liberal, book says [Supports Paid Pro-Homosexual Psychologist]

22 posted on 05/06/2002 8:08:20 AM PDT by EdReform
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Some wonder why homosexuals would stick with the church. Gay Catholics say their faith is a piece of their identity.

If their faith was more than just a "piece" of their identity, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Titus 1:16 - "They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed" (NASB)

1st John 2:4-6 - "The one who says 'I have come to know Him', and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; (5) but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: (6) the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked." (NASB)

Any professing Christian, regardless of sexual orientation, who isn't sufficiently challenged by these scriptures, please speak up.

Hat-Trick

27 posted on 05/06/2002 8:25:01 AM PDT by Hat-Trick
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" Mary Louise Cervone has been a practicing Roman Catholic all her life and, as a lesbian, has long hoped for acceptance from the church. "

Why hope for acceptance from a heiracry that has never promoted "tolerance" or any thought against it........she's as dumb as a rock if she thinks gays will be accepted.......Hell shes dumb as a stone if she thinks those who take cash every week for "god's" good will will ever accept anything but fear and hegemony to promote thier objectives.......more power.

Believing in god and living a good life have nothing to do with supporting an corrupt church.

28 posted on 05/06/2002 8:25:16 AM PDT by Kakaze
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If you look at the life of Jesus, he was close to people who were marginalized. If we're meant to be following him, people who are marginalized should be comfortable in our churches."

I am really sick of these stupid comments. It is far more truthful to say that the maginalized found it easier to be closer to Jesus than those who had much invested in the religion or politics of the time. They had less BS to overcome and did not think themselves so smart as to know it all. The crazy idea that some churches preach that Jesus loved the poor more than the rich or powerful is absolute rubbish.

God Bless

Mel

31 posted on 05/06/2002 8:33:38 AM PDT by melsec
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but DeBernardo said he believes it is around 10 percent, roughly similar to some estimates of the general population.

Wishful thinking. It's more like 1.5 to 2%. They lie too!

32 posted on 05/06/2002 8:33:53 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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Clinicians say no credible data exists on the number of abusive priests who are homosexual and there is no evidence that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children.

Then why is virtually every case that has come to light in the media a male who was molested?

44 posted on 05/06/2002 8:57:42 AM PDT by LouD
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See, this is just wrong. Until the church allows females to become priests, this fine young lesbian can never have sex with a priest. Many of her male friends, very young and old, are having sex with priests all over the country. Fairy priests have taken over. This is sex discrimination at its very worst.
45 posted on 05/06/2002 9:01:55 AM PDT by Tacis
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Mary Louise Cervone has been a practicing Roman Catholic all her life and, as a lesbian, has long hoped for acceptance from the church.

Find another church, Mary Louise, a practicing homosexual has never been accepted in the Roman Catholic Church. Why would someone who is not a practicing homosexual take such pains to define themselves as gay? If you're chaste, celibate and have homosexual impulses and want to be accepted by the Church then shut up about it. No one cares.

53 posted on 05/06/2002 9:53:26 AM PDT by Orual
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"It's a difficult point for homosexual Catholics that the church condemns homosexual activity."

Too bad.

It's God's rule.

Deal with it.

54 posted on 05/06/2002 10:18:43 AM PDT by Steve0113
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...there is no evidence that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children.

Ok then, what percentage of the current abuse cases involve the priests molesting little boys? Da bing da boom! There's your evidence!

Next!

59 posted on 05/06/2002 10:52:21 AM PDT by FormerLib
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Mary Louise Cervone has been a practicing Roman Catholic all her life and, as a lesbian....

You (and some others) gave me such a nice response last time, I'm trying for 2 for 2.

How can this be? The RCC has one position on homosexual conduct, doesn't it? Why is she still an RCC? What hasn't she been excommunicated?

Dan

73 posted on 05/06/2002 11:43:02 AM PDT by BibChr
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"If you look at the life of Jesus, he was close to people who were marginalized. If we're meant to be following him, people who are marginalized should be comfortable in our churches."

Sinners always try to use this line to justify their sin. Yes, Jesus did tell those who were planning to stone the adulterous woman "You who are without sin cast the first stone." However, he ALSO told the woman "GO AND SIN NO MORE!" He DIDN'T tell her to continue in her sinful ways and he'd love her no matter what.

Folks who don't want to give up their sinful ways turn farther away from God each time they sin. At some point, it will be too hard for them to turn back. God will be there waiting for them, but they may not make it back to Him.

90 posted on 05/06/2002 1:21:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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