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'I am Not A Racist But Our Country Is Full'
The Times (UK) ^ | 5-8-2002

Posted on 05/07/2002 8:48:28 PM PDT by blam

May 08, 2002

'I am not a racist but our country is full'

Pim Fortuyn in his own words:

On death: “I’m not going to die soon. I’m going to live to be 87”

On immigration: “Full is full, and you can’t mop the floor while the tap is running” “I’m NOT anti-Muslim, I’m not anti-immigration; I’m saying we’ve got big problems in our cities. It’s not very smart to make the problem bigger by letting in millions more immigrants” “I think 16 million Dutchmen are about enough” “Moroccan boys never steal from Moroccans. Have you noticed that?” “The Netherlands is not an immigration country. The annual stream of tens of thousands of newcomers, who largely end up as illegal aliens, must stop. We’re living on a small piece of land” “We have a lot of guests who are trying to take over the house and the owner of the house doesn’t like it” “I am not racist. I am not xenophobic”

On Islam: “A backward culture” “In Holland, homosexuality is treated the same way as heterosexuality. In what Islamic country does that happen?”

“Freedom of speech is very important and their treatment of sexual minorities like gay men and women is a big problem”

“An imam should be able to say about me that homosexuals are worse than pigs. My only demand is that you must not incite violence”

“Muslims have a very bad attitude to homosexuality, they’re very intolerant. For them women are second-class citizens”

During an interview with John Simpson: “Give me a definition of racism. You don’t know what a racist (is) because you have negroes who are Muslims, you have white men who are Muslims, you have yellow men who are Muslims, so how can you connect the Muslim religion and culture with a race? Then you are very stupid Mr Simpson”

On Dutch financial contributions to the EU: “I will borrow that handbag from Margaret Thatcher, bang on the table and say I want my money back”

On Le Pen: “I am appalled by his anti-Semitic thoughts. A man who describes the Holocaust as the footnote in history is beyond my comprehension”

“If you allow immigrants into your country then you’re responsible for them. That means they have the same rights and you can’t just throw them out of the country. If Turkish or Moroccan boys misbehave here, it’s up to us to re-educate them and, when necessary, to punish them”

“Right-wing in Holland is to the left of the Tories in England”

“Dutch people do not like intervention by foreign politicians. These are our problems and our politicians have to fix them for themselves, not with the help of Blair”

“The whole of Europe is suffering the same problems. Labour is ended because they do not have any solutions, neither to immigration nor education nor healthcare”

“What we are witnessing now is a clash of civilisations, not just between states but within them”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: country; full; racist
The western countries are intent on committing suicide by immigration. I just don't understand it.
1 posted on 05/07/2002 8:48:28 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
bump
2 posted on 05/07/2002 8:49:08 PM PDT by weikel
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To: blam
The western countries are intent on committing suicide by immigration.

Yep.

3 posted on 05/07/2002 8:54:06 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: blam
Thanks for posting all the Pim quotes. I fear the folks at Reuters & CNN & CBS will not get what he was talking about. He was as "right-wing" as my left toe is. He was speaking the truth about the facts on the ground for many Europeans, not just for the Dutch. The EUROwhore bureaucrats and their bought & paid-for flunkies in the "press" can't be expected to speak the truth, though. Their paychecks depend upon bringing Europe down into the tubes, I do now seriously believe.
4 posted on 05/07/2002 9:03:52 PM PDT by leilani
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To: blam
Immigrants are brought in as cheap labor. When enough are in the country, some politician will want them as voters. Greed and desire for power at the expense of a nation is a definition of a traitor.
5 posted on 05/07/2002 9:05:22 PM PDT by Fee
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To: weikel
“If you allow immigrants into your country then you’re responsible for them. That means they have the same rights and you can’t just throw them out of the country. If Turkish or Moroccan boys misbehave here, it’s up to us to re-educate them and, when necessary, to punish them”

I bet you could substitute the words "Turkish and Moroccan Boys" with "Islamic Extremists",and get yourself killed here in the U.S.A. too.It's just an unfortunate feeling I have.

7 posted on 05/07/2002 9:17:10 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: blam
Of course the only problem is if there is no immigration and current birth rate trends continue western nations and Japan will decline in population. So to retain the population base, citizens here have to start making more babies. But the richer a nation gets the lower the birth rate is. Its almost a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario.

First immigration has to be overhauled and a much better screening process needs to be put in place over the non-existent one now. To increase the birth rate in the US, the tax code needs to be reworked to the point that people actually have the money to raise children. It would be nice to get back to the days where you only needed one parent to work out of the home.

9 posted on 05/07/2002 10:01:17 PM PDT by caa26
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To: Fee
The same business interests we so proudly flaunt as the emboiment of the great capitalist experiment.....LOVE CHEAP, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LABOR!!!!

Face the facts, if you want to stop illegal immigration. put the cabash on the corporations that hire the illegals.....AIN'T GONN HAPPEN!!!

10 posted on 05/07/2002 11:23:26 PM PDT by zarf
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To: blam
The western countries are intent on committing suicide by immigration. I just don't understand it.

That suicide is simply the Hegelian Dialectic in action. Throughout recorded history, political and monetary power has been concentrated in the hands of a few elites who called the shots. Now either this was the result of an incredibly long string of highly unlikely coincidences, or somebody was conspiring (uh-oh, tinfoil, tinfoil, tinfoil,...) to maintain their power along the way.  Sometime around the middle to late 19th century, things started getting out of hand. More people had more money and freedom than ever before. Ooops, can't have that.

The best situation for somebody in power who wants to maintain their power is physical slavery. Unfortunately for some, that won't cut it any more so the next best option is a situation where there is the illusion of freedom among the serfs (makes them more manageable). In other words, "Work on my farm, buy from my store." The serfs have freedom of choice: they can pick whether they're going to shovel dung or milk cows but they're still working on my farm and I determine how much money they get to keep. The way to get there is to take control of the currency a la 1913/1933/1964. Unfortunately, the serfs have had a taste of better things than they deserve and they attempt to circumvent excessive taxation, whether outright or through inflation. That means the serfs have to be tracked so they can be controlled. Taxation implies control. Control implies tracking. Well, if government suddenly claimed authority to require people to have their arms tattooed with a serial number, or wear an ear-tag like farm animals, it wouldn't go over. The best way to get people to do something that is not in their best interest is to get them to ask you for it.

1. Psychological conditioning. Create a problem (excessive immigration)

2. Whip up opposition to the problem (use mass media outlets to foment prejudice and class warfare)

3. Propose a solution to the problem that would not otherwise have been acceptable absent the problem you created (National ID Cards in the form of driver's licenses tied back to SSN's which are required everywhere for everything)

Voila! Tracking and control accomplished.

Excessive immigration is also good for a couple of other things.

1. Reducing the serf's expectation of a standard of living

2. Masses of uneducated immigrants eventually form a socialist-leaning voting block reinforcing demands for more tracking and control

So it's not really suicide from the standpoint of someone behind the scenes with the money and power to manipulate the public consciousness, it's transformation. Transformation from a society where individual initiative is rewarded (which represents potential competition or opposition) to one of individual dependence descending to a subsistence level existence.

Hmmmmmmm. A few mucky-mucks at the top calling the shots and almost everybody else back where they were for thousands of years! Sounds like a plan to me!

11 posted on 05/08/2002 12:18:56 AM PDT by agitator
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To: blam
Morning bump.
12 posted on 05/08/2002 6:45:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: agitator
ABSOLUTELY!!! And to make their "game plan" complete, they use the government run indoctrination centers.....errr.....schools...to make certain that the masses believe that the (our) government actually has the Constitutional authority to do pass the "non-laws"......

Actually, it's a pretty ingeneous plan when you stop to think about it.........................sad that most people don't (or refuse to) "get it"..

13 posted on 05/08/2002 7:25:19 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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I just read the following off a Drudge link to Yahoo:

"A 32-year-old animal rights activist was remanded in custody by an Amsterdam court on suspicion of murdering Dutch far-right leader Pim Fortuyn...The killer walked up to Fortuyn in the parking lot outside a radio station in broad daylight and shot the politician five times in the neck, head and chest."Now,I didn't know that when I went to sleep last night.Why am I not surprised regarding this behavior.

14 posted on 05/08/2002 10:46:47 AM PDT by Pagey
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To: Pagey
Now,I didn't know that when I went to sleep last night.

Of course not. The leftist media is mortified by this assassin’s behavior (though they undoubtedly welcome the outcome.) They can't figure out how to pin this one on the rightwing racist gun nuts, but that doesn't mean they'll stop trying.

Check out:

Dutch Bible-belt Town quick to distance itself from Fortuyn murder suspect

15 posted on 05/08/2002 10:52:31 AM PDT by dead
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To: caa26
But the birth rate would rise without abortion.
16 posted on 05/08/2002 10:59:27 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: KentuckyWoman
Most people don't want to "get it." In fact, the screwee will usually argue in favor of their own screwing. It's uncomfortable and unpleasant to deal with anything outside the comfort zone of their preconceived reality and very few people voluntarily go where it's uncomfortable and unpleasant even when it's in their own best interests to do so.
17 posted on 05/08/2002 11:19:31 AM PDT by agitator
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To: blam
bttt
18 posted on 05/08/2002 12:42:53 PM PDT by Pagey
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