Posted on 05/08/2002 3:42:34 PM PDT by rohry
Market WrapUp for the Week Wednesday's Stock Market WrapUp The Cisco Systems Effect While Ciscos report indicated a small 2% increase in revenues, CEO John Chambers stated that it was still too early to call a turnaround and indicated that revenues for the quarter would be flat to very low single digits. He added that the companys ability to estimate future revenue remained impaired since customers are still cautious about ordering. He declined to provide estimates for fiscal 2003. Putting his comments into perspective, they really arent any different than what we heard earlier in the week from Intel CEO, Craig Barrett, and IBM CEO, Samuel Palmisano, as neither has a very bright outlook on the corporate environment for this year. Today's Markets Oil stocks ended the day up, after two separate reports showed a sharp decline in weekly U.S. inventories, driving crude oil comfortably past the $27 a barrel level. Crude for June delivery on the NYMEX closed up $1.02 at $27.65. The contract reached an intraday high of $28.05 during the session. Overseas Market Asian stocks rose, led by Kyocera Corp., Samsung Electronics Co. and other computer-related companies, as Cisco Systems Inc.'s higher-than-expected profit marked the first sign this month that the industry is recovering. The Nikkei 225 stock average added 1.8% to 11,520.75. Indexes in South Korea and Singapore also got a boost after the U.S. said productivity last quarter grew at the fastest pace in almost 20 years. Treasury Market © Copyright, Scott Middleton, May 8, 2002 |
And on this good news the market shoots to the moon? What is everyone smoking? This is like getting excited about the Tampa Bay Devil Rays winning the World Series because they brought up a new middle relief picher from AA ball...
Look at the sadass market internals! Breadth is non-existent; Arms Index is overbought. All IMHO. ;^)
Hopefully, this isn't equivalent to the old oak tree raining acorns before it dies. It will be interesting to see what kind of support exsists Thursday.
See my post from Monday on another thread:
I guess I'm just astounded at the gullibility...
Wow, what a fantastic image..kind of like salmon going back upstream to die...and lay their eggs.
If these Markets didn't have me scared before, they sure have succeeded now! Things must really be bleak down there on Wall Street....
Note that 80% of trading volume occurred in the first 15 minutes of the market.
Dinsa Mehta, J.P. Morgan Chase, Derivatives, Enron and Gold
Enron was trading every market in the world, most in SIZE. They were leveraged to the hilt. Dinsa Mehta was one of the chief honchos in The Gold Cartel and a well-known gold derivative specialist. He also knew the gold price was rigged as he was instrumental in doing the rigging dirty work. I have been told that Enron often paraded him around at their Dog and Pony shows. How could Enron not have utilized the gold carry trade to finance their operations? How could they have passed on the 1% gold interest rates, knowing the gold price was rigged? How could they not have been short hundreds of tonnes of gold, in their off-shore operations (Mahonia Ltd.)?
Maybe the real Enron story is still hidden?
PS I don't know how much of this true...
Check out Wyatt's Torch post that I linked in yesterday's Market WrapUp. It shows that productivity gains were caused by people working fewer hours. The French think the world works better by working fewer hours, but not any conservative economists.
Also,did Nokia drive the market down over 300 points?
Yep. This is a "things don't totally suck" rally. While Cisco is relatively good news (the hit the upper end of their already downwardly adjusted earnings), the also refused to give guidance for future quarters except for they expected no growth. In this market, no growth is better than negative growth.
In the first quarter, hours worked in the nonfarm businesses fell by nearly 2%. Consider the durable goods manufacturing sector, which had an eye-popping 13.3% jump in first quarter productivity. The single largest factor in that number, however, was a 7.3% decline in hours worked. For comparisons sake, bear in mind that during the so-called "productivity revolution" of the latter half of the 1990s, strong gains in both output and hours worked were the norm.
I'll admit I am trying to time the market bottom with some loose after tax money I have laying around. The idiots that run my state retirement plan are clueless. They just go with the flow and do what other big institutional investors do.
Well, nothing. But usually one stock doth not a Market make, especially for a "correction" of this size. When one does, there is something fundamentally wrong!
I admit it does seem a bit of an overeaction to modest news but after a week of declines prices were down and it was a good time to buy IMO.
I agree. As a Day Trader, it is a good time to buy as one is usually in and out the same day. But, if you are looking for a long term investment, it is lousy timing. The time to buy was yesterday, or maybe in six months or so when everyone is sick of getting whip-sawed downward and have withdrawn in despondency and fear - i.e. when the Market has reached approximate bottom. IMHO, the Market will continue to ramp another day or so and then come crashing back to reality, down again (although I hope not).
This rise was too far, too fast, for next to no reason other than "irrational exuberrance" (as our old pal, Alan Greenspan would say, several years ago when the DOW was a 6,000 and heading for the moon). That is a "poor" fundamental.
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