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Pair visits dead, dying malls
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^
| Friday, May 10, 2002
| Teresa F. Lindeman
Posted on 05/10/2002 8:07:23 AM PDT by Willie Green
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:34:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Peter Blackbird has learned you can't argue with a dog. Messing with homeless people isn't such a smart idea either.
Still, braving the unknown is just part of the territory when your hobby is checking out dead and dying shopping centers.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: recession; theneweconomy; wierdwebsites
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I'm gonna add
www.deadmalls.com to my bookmarks.
If you have a Dead Mall in your area, I would think that the webmaster would appreciate any information, digital photos, etc. that you would like to contribute.
To: Willie Green
They should visit Buffalo. We are the dead and dying mall capital of the USA.
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:13:29 AM PDT
by
Marc Poor
To: Willie Green
. . . often bulldozed to be replaced with big box stores. Did you notice this little tidbit? When a 650,000 square foot shopping center is bulldozed and replaced with big box stores, it is hardly a sign of decline -- it is a sign of a changing type of marketplace.
To: Willie Green
Meanwhile, just down the road in Butler County and Cranberry Township, stores are being built and opening.
Think the tax-happy Democrats and the union workers here in the Burgh that reflexively vote for them will ever put two and two together?
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:14:15 AM PDT
by
Dales
To: Willie Green
Northgate Plaza. Dewey Avenue, Rochester NY. Thriving in the 70's, struggling in the 80's, wheezing in the 90's, dead today.
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:15:51 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
To: Marc Poor
We are the dead and dying mall capital of the USA.Maybe Tom Ridge can buy them using part of his Homeland Defense budget.
They'd make great internment camps for illegal aliens.
(((sigh)))) Never happen. Just wishful thinking.
To: Dales
Cranberry Township = WalMart City
Who the heck wants to live at a mall?
To: Willie Green
How come the Dolphin Mall in Miami isn't mentioned? It opened last year to much fanfare and is now dying on the vine. Someone told me yesterday that the Dolphin Mall is now so desperate to keep its retail stores that it isn't even charge rent for the time being.
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:23:22 AM PDT
by
PJ-Comix
To: technochick99
When a 650,000 square footI just decided how big our house should be.
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:24:54 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
To: Willie Green
Dearth Mall?
To: Willie Green
For many years the 163rd Street Shopping Center in North Miami Beach was very busy. Nowadays it's once open air layout has been coverted to look like an oversized, windowless, heavily fortified bunker blockhouse on the Normandy beach head. And the business there is going down the tubes.
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:27:04 AM PDT
by
PJ-Comix
To: Willie Green
Malls as a whole need to change or die. Strip malls still do well, however, as they are more convenient (drive to the store of your choice, go in, get out).
The mall of my youth (Green Acres-Valley Stream, New York) didn't die, so much as get taken over by thugs from the ghettos of Queens and Brooklyn. The better retailers moved out and the discounters moved in. Its a shame, as I really liked going there as a kid.
For me, its either old fashioned outdoor shopping districts (for enjoyment) or strip malls (for convenience).
BTW: Great site!
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:29:25 AM PDT
by
Clemenza
To: Lazamataz
Yep. Sounds about right....
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:30:40 AM PDT
by
jude24
To: PJ-Comix
The 163rd Street Mall went ghetto after the Aventura Mall is built. Well, at least Laurenzo's is still nearby.
Dadeland, the oldest Mall in Dade County, is in the process of renovating, but from what I have seen of the other Simon renovations (Town Center in Boca Raton) they tend to make the malls being renvoated even more monstrous than they were.
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:32:01 AM PDT
by
Clemenza
To: Willie Green
Who the heck wants to live at a mall? You have never met my niece. Although I don't think she is interested in dead malls.
To: PJ-Comix
I live down the street from the Dolphin Mall. It was built to compete with Sawgrass for the "tourist shoppers" from Latin America, but it failed to get good anchor tenants. As a result, all they have are junk stores and an underutilized movie theatre (which makes it good for me as I frequently get near-private showings).
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posted on
05/10/2002 8:34:06 AM PDT
by
Clemenza
To: PJ-Comix
How come the Dolphin Mall in Miami isn't mentioned?So many dead malls, so little time...
I'm sure the folks at www.deadmall.com would appreciate suggestions to add to their collection.
To: Dales
Meanwhile, just down the road in Butler County and Cranberry Township, stores are being built and opening. Only a stone's throw from the dying Greengate Mall are new shopping centers on either side of the highway. There is new development all around, even as old buildings sit idle. I can only imagine that the construction trade is the only beneficiary.
SD
To: Marc Poor
Oh, hell yes. Summit Park in NF, Northtown on Sheridan Road, Southgate in West Seneca, Eastern Hills out on Transit. Heck, just look at it from the other end - the only malls in good shape I know of are Boulevard and Walden. ;)
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