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To: EternalVigilance
How is it fascist to say that parents have a responsibility to care for their children, to provide them with food, education, and medical care. According to the doctor's testimony, two of the three of those (at least) were not adequately provided. In the eyes of the law, that's neglect, at least. And there was evidence of abuse. Parents do have the legal right to raise their children as you see fit; however, that does not give carte blanche to do whatever you want. You cannot beat your kids, no matter what they do. You must provide education. You must provide some sort of medical care. The Christines, according to the official court record, failed to do so, whether maliciously or negligently.

But the legal question at hand here is whether they were legally allowed to take their children at gunpoint, take the social worker's van and personal effects, and so forth. It was decided, probably for PR purposes, that a kidnapping charge was not a good idea, though it certainly would not have been inappropriate. Being the biological parent does not automatically legally entitle parents to cutody. The law does this all the time during divorces. It would be kidnapping for a non-custodial parent to take the children without the permission of the legal guardian. This is perhaps a case of first impression (the first of this sort of fact pattern) where the kidnappers were both biological, but non-custodial parents. This is why they were found guilty of custodial interference. Personally, if I were the DA, I would have included the kidnapping charge.

So we have the taking of the van at gunpoint. I dont care what excuses you make, that's robbery. And using a motor vehicle they werent authorized to is a crime too.

Fascism? Nah. Law and order? Sure, I'll accept that moniker willingly.

I have no sympathy for criminals.

63 posted on 05/11/2002 8:41:32 AM PDT by jude24
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To: jude24; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; EternalVigilance; ex-Texan...
>Fascism? Nah. Law and order? Sure, I'll accept that moniker willingly.

>I have no sympathy for criminals.

Really?  Jas 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.

    YOU HAVE BELIEVED A LIE!   YOU HAVE GIVEN YOUR MIND TO THE BEAST! 
 

The lie:  "One Who Is Many ...It is the goal of every inferior species to be assimilated into The Collective. By assimilating the culture and technology of various races throughout the galaxy, we improve the overall quality of life for all species. Assimilation is a swift and "painless" procedure, and can be accomplished on a large scale. Preparation is irrelevant.  Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply. Resistance is futile. Lower your shields and surrender.  All species will ultimately become one with the ***Borg."

***The one world satanic agenda...

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64 posted on 05/11/2002 8:55:10 AM PDT by 2sheep
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To: jude24
I have no sympathy for criminals.

Jews in Germany were criminals. Why? Because they were Jews.

Would you condemn those of them who fought back against the tyrants?

It was illegal to harbor Jews, too. Would you condemn those who hid them in their barns, fields and attics? After all, they were 'criminals'...SO, let's throw the book at them, right?! HA!

If I would have been in his Brian Christine's shoes, I don't know what I would have done...do you have any idea of the reputation of the Oregon 'human services'? The stories of children put into homosexual and drug abusing 'homes'?

You could at least try and muster a little human compassion for a family that has been ripped apart and destroyed. But I don't suppose you are capable of that. Sad.

99 posted on 05/11/2002 1:52:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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