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I suppose that a doctor who works for the state would never lie? Where's the emaciated photographs they said they had? Mengele was a doctor too. The lies are right out of Dr. Irwin Redliner's communist medicine book, so bizarre that you would think that people wouldn't be so gullible. Fifteen pounds? A cut on the forehead that we are supposed to believe smells worse than a rotted, gangrenous extremity, and everyone had to leave the room? I called my doctor and asked about that, not mentioning anything about the case which he said later he never heard of. He said that's not possible. Also, he said that cerebrospinal fluid doesn't smell like feces, that only GI bleed (gastrointestinal) would have that smell. If Giesen said that the Christines had horns growing out of their heads and were poisoning wells, everyone would believe it because he's a DOCTOR and his staff won't say different if they are sheeple who are intimidated by his position on his state medical committee. If one goes against him, all he has to do is lie about them next (this nurse stole prescription medicine, this nurse has a drinking problem, and on and on). State workers falsifying records, throwing out evidence? All the time, think Rilya, think Elian.

I had an experience a few months ago in the waiting room of a large veterinary hospital. The owner of a cat which had recently been treated there, had returned with the cat after it developed a major infectious discharge from its back end. The smell was indeed bad enough that people were covering their noses and staying as far from the woman and her cat as possible. The vet came out to the waiting room to check on the cat (as there was going to be a delay in getting the cat into an examining room) and also cringed at the smell, while pronouncing it unrelated to what the cat had previously been treated for.

Given my experience with abcesses in my own cats (which can result from even tiny puncture wounds which heal over on the outside while retaining an infection inside), opening and draining abcesses can indeed cause a dreadful smell. However, most abcesses are not medically serious (unless left unattended after the infection spreads to the bloodstream, causing a high fever), and depending on the location, an abscess may not be readily detectable at all or, (as theoretically could have been the case with the Christine girls cut/abcess on the head) the swelling caused by pus building up in an abscess could well be mistaken by a lay person for swelling associated with the bruise sustained at the time of the cut or puncture.

The information given about the Christine girl's condition could have been evidence of parental cluelessness rather than parental abuse (though in the context of all the other things the Christine parents are known to have done and alleged to have done, it seems more likely that actual abuse was involved).

A cut on the forehead that we are supposed to believe smells worse than a rotted, gangrenous extremity, and everyone had to leave the room?

I've seen this before on a 82-year-old guy in a con nursing home when I was working as an EMT with a local ambulance group. I still think the nursing home was negligent there. He had maggots walking around in an infected wound on his leg. It smelled like crap, really.

Besides, if the story was made up, the defense counsel would be able to easily rebut this.

Face it-- you've painted yourselves into a corner where you are defending despicable scum.