[JohnHuang2]

Sunday, May 12, 2002 Quote of the Day by conservatism_IS_compassion 5/11/03

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

One aspect of the science of understanding and possibily predicting weather is soon to get a big enhancement in the volume of date.

See this:Sounding out the weather : satellite designed to improve forecasting and climate research.

[My Identity]

Kyoto Paradox:
Global climate is one of the most complex systems known.
To say we can control it by a small set of factors is ridiculous.

The problem with a chaotic coupled non-linear system as complex as climate is that you can no more predict successfully the outcome of doing something as of not doing something. Kyoto will not halt climate change.

Climate models, which serve as the basis for long-term climate predictions, have clearly failed when tested against observed climate data.

"Antarctica has been cooling since 1966, directly contradicting model results that suggest that warming will be more pronounced in the Earth's polar regions."
-- Nature magazine

"the Antarctic ice sheet is expanding rather than shrinking, contrary to what global-warming enthusiasts would have us believe."
-- Science magazine

Further, climate models are filled with assumptions, bad data, tweaks, etc.
Modelers can tweak these parameters to force the model to show any result.

[cake_crumb]

Has anyone else wondered how the career enviro-wackos manage to get away with totally ignoring those cyclical warm periods in the earth's climate, followed by COLD periods - commonly referred to as ice ages??

[madfly]

ping

[RedBloodedAmerican]

is there any way to get a martini that is proportianate in size to the ice bergs that are breaking off the shelf? The latest one is several times the size of Manhatten < /off topic - sort of >

[WhiteyAppleseed]

"If the engineer tried to measure the brick from a mile away, he or she would be fired (the scientist, on the other hand, gets a Ph.D.)"
Mark Edward Vande Pol, Natural Process