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Portland, Oregon officials embrace green ideals to lure industry to town
the Oregonian ^ | 13 May 02 | SCOTT LEARN

Posted on 05/13/2002 2:00:03 PM PDT by Glutton

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To: 2sheep; mancini; ArrogantBustard; Thinkin' Gal; ex-Texan; Light Speed; Fred Mertz; f. Christian; all
Since Christians and pro-family conservatives are usually the ones who get wrongfully accused in today's anti-Christian atmosphere, Christians should read articles linked above at #23, about the 3 teenagers blamed for the murder of the sister of one of the teenagers, one of the cops is a church youth group leader and one set of the parents of one of the teenagers are devout Christians. I wonder if that's why one set of parents (the Treadways) let their guard down when their son was being questioned. That's the teenager they kept awake without food for 26 hours until he confessed. Everyone knows that a 15 year old would be incoherent, confused, maybe even hallucinatory, after 26 hours of no sleep and no food.

They also had to know that the transient had a high probability of having murdered the little girl. There were eyewitness reports of him obsessed with searching for a "Tracey", reports of his standing outside the Crowe's house, looking up at the house of the murdered little girl, a cop who was called to the neighborhood after the transient was banging on house windows and reported that the transient was nowhere to be seen, BUT the little girl's garage laundry room door was closing (the paranoid schizophrenic transient was probably hiding from the police car! DUH).

I don't believe it was investigative bungling, as the articles allege, because they didn't even take procedural steps to exonerate the transient. If they had taken steps to exonerate him, they could have bungled at the steps, but they acted more in a hurry to get him out the door.

So the question is, why would these investigators and prosecutors be so relentless to get a confession from these kids when they had to have considered that the transient might murder again and their prosecution of the three boys might later be questioned? The answer has to be that they were so filled with vanity and pride that they were willing to put three innocent boys in prison and willing to risk the transient murdering again just so they could be named as the investigators that put the three teenage boys away. After all, unfortunately, a group of teenage boys killing a sister of one of the boys to the utter shock of the families and community sells A LOT more newspapers and gets a lot better cable news network ratings than "just" a schizophrenic transient who murders in a fit of psychosis.

When investigators get all the national publicity, and the accompanying accolades, they also get the opportunity at better paying jobs with better titles in what is probably a very competitive field.

There's an anti-attorney movement that is growing across the country by victims of the modern Babylonian court system and its players. These players continue to victimize innocent families and their actions are such that it is obvious that they have NO interest in getting to the truth, better to quickly prosecute a fall guy or confiscate a child for their sodomite agenda. However, when in Babylon, sometimes its more effective to put out a fire as the Babylonians do.

In many of the wrongful child confiscation cases and in the Crowe case above, some of the innocent victims have been helped by maverick attorneys while I note that many who go into court representing themselves, such as the Gastons, have received no relief whatsoever despite getting lots of media attention.

I believe that people who choose to represent themselves often do it for noble reasons 1) They have no money for an attorney; 2) They've already gone through several unscrupulous attorneys who lied to them just to steal their money, sometimes their life savings. 3) They can't find an attorney who will fight for them or take their case even. 4) They see the corruption within the system and don't want to be a part of it. 5) They rightly believe that many aspects of the modern Babylonian court and police systems tread on many constitutional rights.

BUT if someone represents themself, all of these facts matter little to the corrupt politicians, judges, lawyers, and police officers, who already scoff at the constitution. Their only incentive to back down, that I can see, is some loss of face, or other loss, exacted within the community of their profession. That might be easier to do with one of the one in a million ethical attorneys who knows the system and the manners in which they can attach some form of superficial shame or ridicule to the evil lawyers and lie enforcement officers, then trying to overturn the system by proclaiming the truth on your own. They aren't listening. Things aren't going to turn around; that optimistic viewpoint is not in the Bible. Better to come out of Babylon, but in the meantime, we need to educate ourselves on what mistakes to avoid when wrongly accused (cooperating, thinking that the truth presented to the Babylonians will get them to set you free, etc.) and which attorneys may be trustworthy, not necessarily Christians, but will fight for Christians' rights be citizens, parents and Christians all at the same time.

41 posted on 05/16/2002 4:35:38 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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The Soviet Socialistic State of Oregon is going to wake up to a big surprise---boycott!
42 posted on 05/16/2002 5:00:10 PM PDT by f.Christian
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There were plans to incorporate southern Oregon with Northern California to create a new state...Jefferson---Columbia or something. Give Western Oregon to make Idaho stop looking so deformed--stupid...and give North-Western Oregon to Washington---good riddance!
43 posted on 05/16/2002 5:09:13 PM PDT by f.Christian
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