EMINEM BATTLES CHENEY

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[Plummz]

You were just reading in things that weren't there, because that's all your narrow-minded agenda could focus on.

[homeschool mama]

**She's in on the movement to nationalize "education standards," bring the private schools under them with vouchers and making sure all the children "think" the exact same way.**

Really now. tsk tsk tsk. I suppose that's why she's against the NEA, huh? Where do you get your information, plummz?!

[AmishDude]

You were just reading in things that weren't there, because that's all your narrow-minded agenda could focus on.

And what agenda would that be, Karnac?

[Stone Mountain]

**Is it poetry? **

In the classic sense, no.

So rap is neither music nor poetry? What exactly do you define as the "classic sense" of poetry?

[Saundra Duffy]

"F*@k you, Tipper Gore!"

Ditto.

[Stone Mountain]

.what we ARE saying is that he has NO RIGHT to be vulgar about it. He has NO right to say f@*k you to Mrs. Cheney...NONE, at all!!!!

Actually, I think he does have a right to be vulgar about it. How many Freepers have said "f*ck you" and much worse about Bill and Hillary? Don't Freepers have a right to say such things about Bill and Hillary?

[Stone Mountain]

I used to take up for rock bands and their music when my dad was trying to tell me how bad they were. My replies sounded a lot like some of the things you are saying in defense of this garbage. Then I grew up. If rap music is so important to you that you would make excuses for Eminiem, I would suggest you reevaluate your priorities.

I see you didn't read my post where I mentioned that I don't like the music of Eminem. Rap music isn't important to me at all. However, freedom of expression is. I agree with you that as far as I am concerned, most of Eminem's music is garbage - that's why I don't buy it. However, I do think it is more important that our government NOT make the decisions for us what is and isn't garbage. If people want to buy garbage, I think they should be allowed to. Sorry if you don't like my priorities...

What rock music were you defending to your father? When you say, "then I grew up," does that mean that you no longer listen to the music you once defended? Should the government have taken a part in criticizing that music as well?

[Plummz]

I neither purport to know, nor particularly care, Criswell.

[Plummz]

As far as I know, she has not criticized the Bush Administration's "Education" bill which sets national standards, and io am rather sure she has written in favor of them before. Feel free to cite something where she against nationalized education standards, I'd be glad to retract.

It is true she isn't a fan of the NEA, as their preferred form of statist brainwashing is of a different flavor than hers.

[AmishDude]

I neither purport to know, nor particularly care, Criswell.

Obscure reference alert! Entirely too obscure, based on a Google search. Those sleeves tie too tightly in the back, do they?

I've seen this pattern far, far too many times: (1) Take a contrarion position -- often times, simply for the sake of being contrary. (2) Start making wild and illogical statements to try to support your side. (3) Finally get all of your arguments slapped down by a well-researched post. (4) Claim that your argumentative focus was much narrower than your original position. (5) Begin making accusations of your accuser's motives. (6) Make gratuitous insults for no apparent reason (5 & 6 are in no particular order). (7) Claim apathy as to the whole protracted affair.

Yawn.

[homeschool mama]

It would be useless to post anything proving her stance since your mind is already made up no matter what I offer. What a twit.

[Plummz]

I clearly indicated my openess to new information. If you have convincing evidence to contradict my thesis, both I and anyone else still bothering with this thread would be glad to check it out.

[Plummz]

You have your psychics, I have mine. I didn't need a google search for Karnak. I have that broad education in the humanities Lynne Cheney is keen on, though it is largely private, parachoial, and, of course, autodidactic -- not nationalized.

I was already well aware of Mathers' run-ins with law enforcement, and it had no bearing on what I was talking about, though I suppose it may have yours. I do commend you on your ability to collate links, however. You should put that to work on some of the OKBOMBing research that goes on around here, or perhaps some of the 9/11 background that isn't censored.

[usadave]

If he hadn't become successful as a "singer", Marshall Mathers, aka Eminem, would just be another worthless
two-bit punk sitting in some prison cell due to his obvious anti-social behavior and criminal inclination.

[usadave]

Mathers does not condone the type of behavior on his albums nor has he stated the same.......the characatures on the album make a statement......obviously a controversial and abrasive one....one that the yutes of Amurika and their parents don't want to confront.

Let's say I turn on a tape recorder and record myself making threats towards President Bush. The Secret Service finds out about it and arrests me. All I would have to say is that I don't condone the statements or actions detailed on that tape, that it was a caricature on the tape that made the statement, right? You think the Secret Service would buy that explanation?

[usadave]

If people think that rapping is easy, they should try it.

Whether or not rapping is easy to do is not relevant to whether rap "music" is of good musical composition or quality.

[jws3sticks]

If people think that rapping is easy, they should try it.

As far as I am concerned, I add a 'c' in front of 'rapping', when it comes to that music </not music>

[zarf]

Put a beat behind it and I bet you'd win your case.

[CheneyChick]

She's commenting on stuff she doesn't get, and doesn't like....nor -I'll bet - has she listened to it.

That crap doesn't require listening to. Reading the lyrics is enough reason to make a condemning remark. Sounds like your good sense is fried.

[AmishDude]

I didn't need a google search for Karnak. I have that broad education in the humanities Lynne Cheney is keen on,

Something tells me she's big on humility as well.

I must confess that my humanties education is lacking as I continued to find it both boring and simplistic and populated by the weakest of minds. So I just focused on mathematics, you must forgive me if I don't get your reference. But if I were to make a clever remark referencing the Regularity lemma, I suspect you'd find yourself a bit confused as well. (As long as we're having a urination competition.)

I was already well aware of Mathers' run-ins with law enforcement,

I have no doubt. Of course, if you read the post again, it isn't just law enforcement. It would have been interesting had you conceded that earlier. Interesting that you had not.

You should put that to work on some of the OKBOMBing research that goes on around here, or perhaps some of the 9/11 background that isn't censored.

What? I can't hear you! I'm going deaf over the sound of axes being ground to their handles.

But something tells me that you came onto this thread in the first place in order to grind a few axes.