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Who has rights to submerged lands?
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 15, 2002 | By ROBERT FARLEY, AMY WIMMER and JEFF TESTERMAN

Posted on 05/16/2002 2:20:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

-A man who fenced off lakeside residents' view also bought an underwater stretch behind 61 Pinellas homes that lies beneath docks.-

SOUTH PASADENA -- Frank Van Bibber spent $25,000 last year on a state-of-the-art dock. It has two boat lifts, space for three small boats and a shingled roof to cover his 28-foot cabin cruiser.

Now, Van Bibber's not even sure he owns it.

Last week he learned a real estate speculator bought the submerged land under his dock. Van Bibber worries the speculator may also own the dock.


[Times photo: Fred Victorin] This aerial shot of homes along Boca Ciega Bay includes houses affected by Don Connolly's purchase of submerged lands. He has told a lawyer for one resident that he would sell the land to homeowners for $5,000 each. "I've wanted to live on the water my whole life, and I finally get a chance to do it," Van Bibber, 49, said Tuesday, "and along comes Don Connolly."

Connolly, a 44-year-old Valrico man with two decades of money troubles, paid $2,000 at a tax deed sale in November for a stretch of submerged land behind 61 waterfront homes near South Pasadena.

He initially said he would sell the land to individual homeowners for $100,000 each. He has since told a lawyer for one of the owners that he will lower his price to $5,000.

The situation mirrors a problem in the East Lake subdivision of Tarpon Woods, where Connolly paid $848 at a November tax deed sale for a 4-acre lake and a small ring of land surrounding it. He offered to sell the land behind each house for $30,000. When residents balked, Connolly began building a fence to obstruct their views of the lake.

County officials on Tuesday scrambled to learn whether Connolly is planning similar tactics in other back yards. The property appraiser's office is mapping all 50 properties Connolly owns in Pinellas. It also is looking into other "common element parcels," such as retention ponds, lakes, medians or recreation areas.

"This thing has caught on fire pretty fast," said Assistant County Property Appraiser Pam Dubov.

Indeed. Alice Beehner, an East Lake homeowner, was inundated Tuesday with calls from well-wishers and media inquiries. Today, she is scheduled to appear on Good Morning America.

'I am so sad'

Tammy Apthorp, a real estate agent and homeowner, was the first to alert her neighborhood that Connolly owned the submerged land.

She was selling a nearby house when Connolly called to say she should inform prospective buyers that they would not own the land beneath the dock.

Connolly already owned it.

"My question is, why did the county even consider selling?" said Laszlo Szerenyi, one of the homeowners in a neighborhood where the waterfront homes range from $400,000 to $800,000. "I don't think anybody would buy this land except for mischief."

Apthorp and her husband, Geoff, spread the word in their neighborhood, hoping to get residents to band together. The neighbors plan to meet Tuesday.

"I am so sad for everybody because it's such an exploitive scam," said Geoff Apthorp. "It really takes advantage of a seam in the law."

Connolly is not the first person to purchase common-area property at a tax deed sale, then try to sell it back to homeowners.

"We saw some things like this happening about two years ago," said Jim Bennett, assistant county attorney, "but it was a series of isolated problems."

The problems occur, Bennett said, when developers or homeowners associations stop paying taxes. Two years ago, county officials approached legislators with a plan to attach the tax liability of common areas to all of the homeowners in a development or condominium, rather than to an association.

"It didn't get any legs in the Legislature," Bennett said. Maybe now it will, he said.

Representatives of the county attorney's office, the property appraiser, the tax collector and the clerk of courts plan will meet next week to discuss options, Dubov said. Likely, she said, it will require a change in state laws.

"We're hoping to come up with something to bring to our legislative delegation to prevent this from happening in the future," Dubov said.

Pinellas Tax Collector Diane Nelson plans to push for legislation that would require abutting property owners to be notified before a tax deed sale.

State Rep. Gus Bilirakis, R-Palm Harbor, said his staff called the state judiciary committee to research the issue. "I want to look into this to see if there's any way we can help these people out," he said.

While county officials sought to prevent future problem, homeowners at the East Lake subdivision vowed to fight Connolly.

Real estate attorney Tim Johnson, whose firm was contacted by the homeowners in East Lake and South Pasadena, said there are several legal avenues the homeowners could pursue, including one that gives property owners the right to continue using property they have used for a long time.

In South Pasadena, the homeowners will probably argue that they are entitled to use submerged lands and waters abutting their property.

"It's clear to me that (Connolly) systematically purchased property that has value to the neighbors," Johnson said. "What he's doing is capitalism at its worst."

Money problems

Courthouse records reveal Connolly as a businessman with two decades worth of money troubles, climaxed by his second bankruptcy two years ago.

In the early 1980s, when Connolly was running his own construction company in Hillsborough County, the IRS filed a tax lien against him for $7,223.

After a dissolution of marriage in 1983, Connolly fell behind in child support payments for his 6-year-old son and was ordered to increase payments to $350 a month to catch up.

For reasons that are not clear, Connolly filed for and received a name change from a Hillsborough judge in 1985. Saying he had been born in Memphis to Noel Charles Weaver and Wanda Rose Grace, Connolly attested that he had no money judgments or felony convictions and was granted a legal name change from Donnie Clay Weaver to Donnie Clay Connolly.

In 1989, Connolly filed bankruptcy under Chapter 7 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Act, which requires liquidation of assets. About that time, Connolly and his wife, Marcia, lost a home in Brandon through foreclosure.

Connolly later worked as a trailer salesman with Navigator Aluminum Boat Trailers, but piled up debt in the business that led to a second bankruptcy in 1998.

Asking for another Chapter 7 liquidation, Connolly said he had an unknown amount of debt. Later, more than 50 creditors filed claims in the case. The biggest obligation by far was from the state of Florida for sales and use taxes totaling $847,992.

Connolly and his wife, whose own bankruptcy filing had been consolidated with his, were granted a discharge of debts from the bankruptcy court in January 2000.

Before the discharge, however, the court ordered a number of Connolly's possessions auctioned off to pay creditors.

A mink coat, a ladies diamond wedding ring, a pressure washer, an antique cream separator and a smattering of other items brought in only a few hundred dollars.

-- Robert Farley can be reached at (727) 445-4185 or farley@sptimes.com.

Related story:

View for sale: $30,000


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: landspeculation; propertyrights
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1 posted on 05/16/2002 2:20:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ostensibly, the state sold these submerged lands to a developer years ago. If the developer quit maintaining and paying taxes, it looks to me as if the adjacent property owners, who put piers onto these lands, would have a valid claim of ownership under adverse possession doctrine, since the lands were not owned by a public agency. If this were proven valid, the new "owner's" claims of ownership could be put into doubt.
2 posted on 05/16/2002 3:17:15 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: Real Cynic No More
A lot of these islands and "fingers" were dredged up from the bottom of the bays and left to settle for years before they were developed. I imagine someone had to purchase the dredged up material, so it seems they purchased the submerged muck and sand. If they claimed title to the bottom of parts of the bay, then after dredging what they wanted to build land, stopped paying taxes, it leaves openings for "speculators." I'm not sure who originally owned the bottom of these bays. Maybe the cities or counties? There must be many of these "situations."
3 posted on 05/16/2002 3:49:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I sort of took this guys side in the first story about the fence around the lake. Now I see him as just an opportunist.

I imagine he'll probably wake up dead one of these days.

4 posted on 05/16/2002 4:35:26 AM PDT by Bill Rice
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To: Bill Rice
We'll all wake up dead someday. This fellow's going to have a rocky road 'till that day.
5 posted on 05/16/2002 4:59:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I got dibs on Atlantis ...

(whisper) I can get you a really good deal on Mu ... just let me know if you're interested.

6 posted on 05/16/2002 5:01:57 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: BlueLancer
LOL!
7 posted on 05/16/2002 5:45:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We'll all wake up dead someday. This fellow's going to have a rocky road 'till that day.

If there's anything to this Judgement business, it ain't going to be a picnic after that, either.

8 posted on 05/16/2002 6:11:39 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I guess you could say he'll be toast.
9 posted on 05/16/2002 6:29:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I just found this, which seems to be relevant to the issue:

"The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly" - Abraham Lincoln

OTOH, I also fine this:

"Bad law is more likely to be supplemented than repealed" - Dalin B. Oaks

10 posted on 05/16/2002 7:19:29 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What IS it about FloriDUH and the people who live there?

Before I closed escrow on my house, I pulled every document I could find on my house.

These people bought luxury homes, and they never checked to see what they did and didn't own.

11 posted on 05/16/2002 8:30:37 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Real Cynic No More
Adverse possession does NOT come into play when the property was bought at a tax auction--because the state's title trumps all others in that case, and clear title is conveyed to the purchaser.
12 posted on 05/16/2002 8:32:54 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
mornin CW - The way I see it - thier houses just devalued by more than half - as such, they should get the home reappraised and reassessed on the tax role - the subsequent tax loss for the town should more than act as a hot poker for the bureaucrats to deal with guy in an efficient manner. The pink fence though is quite amusing - I would have loved to been a fly on the wall during scones and tea
13 posted on 05/16/2002 8:41:07 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Hmmmm...it will be interesting to see if this thread, too, will achieve Kilopostal proportions.
14 posted on 05/16/2002 8:42:49 AM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: Revelation 911
Just what should the bureaucrats DO about this when the tax base gets eroded?
15 posted on 05/16/2002 8:44:45 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
May I posit a question for all you wise and knowledgeable freepers?

The rules of the game here are that if the owner does not pay the property taxes, the county may then sell the rights to collect the property tax in order to collect their money. If the owner does not redeem the taxes in a certain period of time, the person who bought the rights, now owns the land. (I may not have all the terminology right but this is the essence of it.)

Question: is it a conservative position for the county to act under this rule. WHO IMPLEMENTED THIS LAW? CONSERVATIVES OR LIBERALS?

By the way, I have always been aware of this law and make sure I pay my prop tax every year. How many of you knew this?.........Remember, ignorance is no excuse of the law.

16 posted on 05/16/2002 8:46:54 AM PDT by mutchdutch
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To: Wm Bach
Gosh, I hope so.

It was interesting that few people pointed out that these idiots "assumed" they own the lake or the bottom lands, and didn't actually make SURE they owned it.

Now I know why these people thought they voted for Buchanan...

17 posted on 05/16/2002 8:47:29 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: mutchdutch
In California, it takes a while for property to forfeit over to the county treasurer. You have to ignore multiple notices of deficiency for a LONG time.

And in most states, it works in similar fashion.

My question: why didn't the developer, when he started having tax problems, contact the homeowners and sell the individual plats BEFORE the land got seized?

18 posted on 05/16/2002 8:50:40 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Just what should the bureaucrats DO about this when the tax base gets eroded?

Its called manipulating the system - surely my town cant be unique - and with that much money who will have the bigger say - the goof whos been bankrupt or Mr. Moneybags? - The Town would act on it pronto, probably by condemning the property in eminent domain as it would serve the greater community good by declaring the area a "park". The loser is out his money, the rich folks are happy and the town gets its money - game over - the big fish eat the little ones

19 posted on 05/16/2002 8:53:55 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Poohbah
I appreciate your input but would like to know more.

Did conservatives or liberals implement these laws?

20 posted on 05/16/2002 8:57:06 AM PDT by mutchdutch
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