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Game lands boys in troubleSchool punishes kids for pretend shooting
rockymountainnews.com ^ | May 16 2002 | Robert Sanchez

Posted on 05/16/2002 2:40:10 AM PDT by 2Trievers

Game lands boys in trouble

School punishes kids for pretend shooting

By Robert Sanchez, News Staff Writer
May 14, 2002

CENTENNIAL -- Charles Andrew remembers walking into Dry Creek Elementary School and finding his son alone in the foyer, sobbing and clutching a tissue.

Ten-year-old Connor got in trouble at school, and the boy was sure he would be punished. After all, the school's principal wanted his dad to pick him up early.

"He was just sitting there," Andrew, 42, said of his son, a fourth-grader. "I worried about what happened."

The incident and ensuing detention all stemmed from a playground game of army-and-aliens -- Connor and six other boys rolled on the ground and pretended to shoot creatures, using their fingers as pretend weapons.

At least one other student and a playground monitor thought the March 25 game displayed "violent and aggressive behavior," said Mary Terch, executive director of elementary education for Cherry Creek Schools. All seven boys were brought inside to meet with Principal Darci Mickle.

The game violated the school's zero-tolerance policy against violence, she told them. The students signed an agreement earlier in the year saying they would follow school safety rules.

They would have to be punished.

"Then Mickle asked my son if we had guns in our home," said Kristine Kinney, the mother of another student, Jorge Marquez, 10. "It's none of their business if we have a gun.

"These are good boys," she said. "My son gets detention and I have to tell him that he didn't do anything wrong. That's confusing for a child."

Mickle did not return a call seeking comment, but Terch confirmed that the principal asked the children whether their parents had firearms in their homes. The school acted appropriately, Terch said, adding that Mickle "had to discern the level of threat against students and staff."

"These students crossed the line," Terch said. "From what I heard, the play was very dramatic. They were rolling around . . . and it demonstrated a level of aggression."

But the boys' parents said the incident is an example of post-Columbine-zero-tolerance run amok. State law determines required expulsions for certain violations, such as when students bring weapons or firearm replicas to school.

Districts have leeway in other cases.

"I don't really see children pointing their fingers at aliens as being a gun issue," said Arnie Grossman, co-president of the gun-control group SAFE Colorado. "There's no real threat. All of us played cops and robbers when we were young."

All seven children missed recess for a week as part of their punishment. Andrew, a sales representative, said his son endured students' jokes and dirty looks. Connor asked to stay home from school.

"He was so upset, and we all know he's not a troublemaker," Andrew said. "I feel like I've lost control over the lessons I want to teach my son."


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Happens every day in my classroom with elementary age boys ... Just "the look" from their teacher ends it all ... they will use a piece of paper, a crayon, pair of scissors ... anything! What's the big deal? Geesh!
1 posted on 05/16/2002 2:40:10 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: 2Trievers
Principal - "Thank you for coming, Mr. Flagg"

R.F. - "What can I do for you?"

Principal - "Well, your Son, Lancaster, was playing some kind of game on the playground. Apparently, he was with friends acting like "Alien Hunters" and shooting each other with pretend guns."(holds index finger and thumb up)

R.F. - "................And?"

Principal - "Well, we don't feel that this is appropriate behavior. it was very dramatic."

R.F. - "............AND?!"

Principal - "They've been disallowed from playground activities for a week."

R.F. - (turns to Son) "Is what she says true?"

Lance - (Sobs)"Yes, Daddy"

R.F. - "OK. Now son, there are some people in this world called "Liberals". These people seem to think that they have the obligation to control everything and everyone that they don't agree with. If they are close to failing at this, then they try to hurt them in whatever way that hurts the most."

Principal - "Mr. Flagg, I really---"

R.F. - "Excuse me, but were any of your Grandparents in World War Two?"

Principal - "Yes, I had a Grandfather that---"

R.F. - "OK, did you ever think that your Grandpa, and the other men who bravely saved this world from the Nazis played "Cops-And-Robbers", or, "Cowboys-And-Indians" in their school's playgrounds?"

Principal - "I can't really speak for---"

R.F. - "Did you know that if they didn't learn how to simulate combat situations in their youth that they'd be baffled at the thought of warfare? And, the possible result would be that you'd be speaking German and your parents would be lampshades?"

Principal - "Sir, our playground---"

R.F. - "WAIT! Did you say this happened in a PLAY ground? Aren't kids supposed to PLAY in these places?"

Principal - "It was a display of violent---"

R.F. - "Did you think that by not allowing kids to be kids by playing and letting loose the stresses of daily life that you might be creating the next Harris and Kliebold?"

Principal - "Well..."

R.F. - "Son, you and I are going hunting on Saturday. Then we're going fishing on Sunday. After fishing, we'll go home and get cleaned up to go out for all the pizza and sodas you want. Ma'am, please get all the paperwork I need to sign to get my Son away from your Communist indoctrination that some might call a school. What you have done here is immoral and wrong and my son will have no more of it."

Principal - "Hunting?? Do you have GUNS in your home??"

R.F. - "More than I need, less than I want."

2 posted on 05/16/2002 3:22:41 AM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: 2Trievers
We shot Japs, Jerrys and Injuns when we were kids.
I wonder what a first year social worker would say about that?
3 posted on 05/16/2002 3:27:04 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: 2Trievers
Liberals will not be happy until we are all castrated.


BUMP

4 posted on 05/16/2002 3:48:25 AM PDT by tm22721
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To: RandallFlagg
That was great. (Great photos of your son on your FReeper page, too.)

America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)

5 posted on 05/16/2002 4:03:23 AM PDT by JCG
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To: RandallFlagg
PRICELESS! ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS! 2A hugs and a smooch!, 2T &;-)
6 posted on 05/16/2002 4:29:29 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: this_ol_patriot
Turn in your white cowboy hat now ol' pat ... you're under arrest for suspicion of common sense! &;-)
7 posted on 05/16/2002 4:33:35 AM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: RandallFlagg
I'm glad I grew up when I did. We played cops and robbers, cowboys and indians with cap pistols. Carried our BB guns wherever we went, slingshots too. Made our own ahem, "fireworks" and rockets with black powder and generally had a ball growing up. I feel sorry for today's boys.
8 posted on 05/16/2002 4:40:00 AM PDT by Zorobabel
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To: 2Trievers
After the boys have been properly "socialized" ..We can begin their formal homosexual brainwashing ...they must understand and accept their "place" in our brave new world. (/sarcasm)
9 posted on 05/16/2002 4:52:31 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: JCG
I'm wondering when this'll go on either Hannity and Colmes or O'Reilly.
Thanks about my Son, he's my little 'nuggles..(sorry, I get's a bit silly when I think about him.)
10 posted on 05/16/2002 7:45:22 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: 2Trievers
I really think that the captain has left the bridge in THAT school.
Thanks.
11 posted on 05/16/2002 7:48:34 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
When your darling son starts school ... be there for him ... be his shadow! &;-)
12 posted on 05/16/2002 8:01:41 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Zorobabel
Hell, my Brother and I used to re-inact the opening gunbattle of Star Wars all the time! We used to have lightsabre duels in the backyard with broomsticks, all sorts of fun stuff. Back then, MY parents never told US that our playtime was actually a visual of a murderous rampage; they just let us do our thing, as THEY did in their youths.
13 posted on 05/16/2002 8:06:53 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: 2Trievers
That's one reason I love my job so much. I work 12 hours a day four days straight rotating every two weeks to graveyards 6am to 6pm. THAT means that I get 4 days off so I can simply "Stop By" anytime I want to see how he's doing. If I catch even ONE teacher doing anything like this to him or any other child, I'll be able to witness it and act. Lance is in good hands.
(He's gotta be: He might be President someday!)
14 posted on 05/16/2002 8:13:41 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: RandallFlagg
"(He's gotta be: He might be President someday!)"

WTG Dad! &;-)

15 posted on 05/16/2002 8:20:18 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: 2Trievers
If they had been caught having sex with each other, they would have been commended by school officials, and it could have been worse. They could have been caught reading the Bible.
16 posted on 05/16/2002 8:27:23 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport
This one slays me ... ""Then Mickle asked my son if we had guns in our home," said Kristine Kinney, the mother of another student, Jorge Marquez, 10. "It's none of their business if we have a gun."
17 posted on 05/16/2002 8:30:57 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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