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Stripper Mom: I'm Following The Bible
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 17, 2002

Posted on 05/17/2002 3:36:51 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee

Friday, May 17, 2002



Stripper mom: I'm following the Bible
Mother says high-paying job gives her time to teach daughter values


Posted: May 17, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern


© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

The mother of a 5-year-old California girl facing expulsion from the Christian school she attends acknowledges her job as a stripper is not one to be proud of, but says her work allows her time to follow the Bible by being a "hands-on" parent.

As WorldNetDaily reported yesterday, the mother, Christina Silvas, was called into a conference at Capital Christian School in Sacramento after school officials became aware that she works as a part-time strip-tease dancer at a local club.

Rick Cole, senior pastor of Capital Christian Church, which sponsors the school, and other staff members met with Silvas to discuss their contention that her occupation is in violation of an agreement with and commitment to the school philosophy that parents must sign before the children are admitted as students. Her daughter would have to be removed, she was told, if Silvas did not quit her job.

The officials offered to cover the girl's last month's tuition of $400 if Silvas would change jobs. They also offered to support Silvas both financially and spiritually, and to help her find a different job that was in keeping with the school's values. Silvas declined the offer.

As a requirement for admission, parents of prospective students must sign a "commitment" to support the philosophy of the school. That philosophy, in part, reads: "Emphasis is placed on learning about God and the truths of God's Word in relationship to man and his world; recognizing that the way to God comes through personal faith in Jesus Christ; and Christian maturity comes by application of the truths of the Bible in all areas of life." In signing the document, parents agree to maintain a "partnership" with the school "regarding the standards and criteria of a Christian learning structure that involves the entire family."

According to reporter George Franco of KOVR-TV, Silvas has retained legal counsel and is considering filing a motion for an immediate injunction to have the child remain in school while the mother continues to work as a stripper.

Last night, Cole and Silvas discussed the matter with Bill O'Reilly, host of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox News Channel.

"We have appealed to her to change her occupation," Cole told O'Reilly, adding that "God would bless" such a decision.

While Silvas said she agrees with the school's philosophy, she sidestepped the question of whether she considered her occupation a "sinful lifestyle."

"I am just doing it for a season," Silvas reasoned, adding, "I'm not proud of what I'm doing."

Silvas argued that since her job takes her away for only three days a week – the days her daughter, Abby, is with her father – she is therefore available to be "the one to teach [Abby] the Bible at home," thus upholding her commitment to partner with the school in her daughter's education.

"The Bible calls on parents to be hands-on," Silvas told O'Reilly. She sees her situation as better than that of a single mother who puts her child in daycare for several hours a day.

When asked if it was fair that the school's actions were, in effect, punishing the daughter, Cole put the responsibility for the expulsion on the mother.

"My concern is, who is the cause of this consequence?" he asked. "The consequence of [Silvas'] choice is affecting her daughter adversely."

None of the participants in the televised segment talked about the possibility of litigation. Silvas did mention, however, that she hoped to find a new job soon and that people outside Capital Christian Church had offered to help her find work.

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To: Rebelbase
Is this Tommy Dashole's next proposal, free daycare for stripper moms?
221 posted on 05/17/2002 8:17:13 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: tracer
No one is talking about stoning her.

Jesus told the woman at the well, that had many husbands, "To go and sin NO MORE".

BTW The "casting the first stone" story is what people use to justify sinful ways. A liberal tactic you should disdain!

222 posted on 05/17/2002 8:17:26 AM PDT by sausageseller
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To: tracer
And, speaking of stones, it would appear that the good pastor and his band could believe that the biblical Jesus, after admonishing the mob who sought to stone the harlot ("Let him who is without sin throw the first stone"), suddenly struck the woman in the head with a large rock and, as she lay dying, turned and winked at the mob.....

Ha ha ha...not. Click here.

223 posted on 05/17/2002 8:20:21 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: jimt;sloth
Your first sentence is oxymoronic. A merchant in a truly "free society" shouldn't be restricted by "law" in what conditions are necessary to do business with him.

Try this;
Buy land, and open a business in your town. Place a placard in your shop window declaring that you will only do business with…(fill-in-the-blank). Try out a few different combinations, whites, Christians, heterosexuals or bald headed chicken truckers, see what the law has to say, get back to me when you are paroled.

224 posted on 05/17/2002 8:20:25 AM PDT by TightSqueeze
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To: Rodney King
If you want to see the mother, there are plenty of topless photos of her on the Strip Club's website. Those photos cannot be posted here. She strips under the name " Samantha".
225 posted on 05/17/2002 8:21:05 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: GuillermoX
And yes, I don't believe you. I'd like to meet these supposed strippers who are "just doing it to earn money for college". I doubt they even exist, anywhere.

Well if this were a face-to-face conversation, I'd probably give one of them a call and have them come over. Since it's only virtual, that is impossible of course. :-)
226 posted on 05/17/2002 8:21:43 AM PDT by KimaraChan
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I know all about adultery---it happened to me---and it SURE AS HELL doesn't equal merely looking at a woman and thinking that yes, perhaps she'd be good in bed. Flame away.

I don’t see how that is worthy of a flame. Just to clarify, is it your contention that Matt 5:28 doesn’t mean what it says, or do you think Jesus may not have actually said what is reported in Matt 5:28?

Matthew 5:
[28] But I[Jesus] say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

-Kevin

227 posted on 05/17/2002 8:21:47 AM PDT by ksen
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To: Hunble
She absolutly shocked me with her reply: "I can make $2,000 a night and it is all legal." She was using her lovely body to expoit men and pay her way for a college degree.

Yeah they all say that they are paying their way through college or some other noble deed. It's all a lie to justify sin. Strippers are victimizers not victims, who pray on men's weaknesses.

228 posted on 05/17/2002 8:24:44 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: sausageseller
On a serious note the Bible talks about being forgiven for 'four score and 20 sins' so this stripper mom is deserving of forgiveness many more times over (80+)

But first she has to admit to God that she has committed the sin of rebellion and that she is willing to accept spiritual help from the church and the community. (without working at the juice bar)

229 posted on 05/17/2002 8:26:00 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I know I'm going to bang a beehive with a stick here, but honestly, I have a hard time believing JC actually said this. It seems so lacking in common sense, when everything else he's purported to say is so grounded in simple, common, easily-understood principles.

I think the simple, common, easily-understood principle here is that we sin with our minds (or souls) long before we ever follow through with the action in our bodies.

I know all about adultery---it happened to me---and it SURE AS HELL doesn't equal merely looking at a woman and thinking that yes, perhaps she'd be good in bed. Flame away.

I don't think He was saying that the repercussions of the mental-only act are the same as the physical act. Obviously, they are not in the human sphere. But to the soul, entertaining the very idea of sin is a type of giving in to temptation. And this is an attitude that requires change, requires perfecting.

Remember, 2 of the Commandments are about thought, not deed. We are not only told not to steal, we are told not to covet others' goods. And we are not only enjoined to refrain from acts of adultery, but also the coveting of another's wife.

SD

230 posted on 05/17/2002 8:27:10 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: LarryM
Do you remember when Darva Conger said she was a Christian but that god would forgive her for posing in Playboy? A Hollywood studio couldn't create a bigger farce than this.

She is one of those fake Christians who think that they are at liberty to sin all they want. Like i said before those people are not really saved and are going to bust hell wide open when they enter it.

231 posted on 05/17/2002 8:27:11 AM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: ksen
I don’t see how that is worthy of a flame. Just to clarify, is it your contention that Matt 5:28 doesn’t mean what it says, or do you think Jesus may not have actually said what is reported in Matt 5:28?

I'm not sure; perhaps a little bit of both. Admittedly I'm no biblical scholar, nor do I have a tremendously strong interest in the field, but I do dig JC and the things he stands for and taught, etc. I was born and raised an American-style catholic in the Italian tradition, but I haven't had anything to do with the CC since I was confirmed about a hundred years ago.

My contention is that everything else JC taught and preached makes perfect common sense. It's so obvious it's scary. Except for this one. It seems to me one's not committing any offense except for following one's basic biological urges, i.e., to procreate---urges God himself gave us. What's more, one's not even giving into one's basic urges---one's practicing restraint.

Perhaps the nuance is in the word "lust," as it infers a somewhat "evil" or "wicked" mindset. Perhaps "lust" was mis-translated from the original Aramaic? Who knows.


232 posted on 05/17/2002 8:28:53 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: scripter
They offered to pay until the end of the school year, which is one more month. Maybe they would pay more if the school year continued past June, maybe they wouldn't. The point the school was making was that the girl could stay in school this year without the mom paying tuition if she quit her job.

I'm completely behind the church school on this one


Well I'm of the opinion that the church school, since they are a private school and had a private membership agreement with the woman, doesn't really owe her anything. Kicking the girl out and trying to make the woman agree with their values, while holding the kid's education over her head - I feel that was playing dirty, but not illegal. And she should have made the school clarify what the "values" were that she was supposed to uphold before signing the document, since that part sounds a bit vague.

Mom should find a new school. Who would want their child in a school like that anyway, considering all that is going on? They are obviously trying to make a moral decision for an adult that already MADE that decision. And you can't expect everything to go back to the way it was before, the girl would not get equal treatment from the teachers.

Maybe since her job allows her to stay at home all week, she should consider home education!
233 posted on 05/17/2002 8:30:56 AM PDT by KimaraChan
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To: L.N. Smithee
Excellent points. The church school isn't the one with a problem here.
234 posted on 05/17/2002 8:32:20 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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To: codebreaker
"Is this Tommy Dashole's next proposal, free daycare for stripper moms? "

Won't fly. It does'nt have any "support".

235 posted on 05/17/2002 8:34:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: SoothingDave
I don't think He was saying that the repercussions of the mental-only act are the same as the physical act.

With that quote, though, I think he is. If you look at a woman and think, "yeah, she's sexy, I wonder what it would be like to have sex with her," this quote tells me JC thinks I just committed adultery with her. And adultery is no small potatoes---it's one of the only things that can, legitimately, annul a catholic marriage.

236 posted on 05/17/2002 8:34:08 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: KimaraChan;L.N. Smithee
Ok, I'll bite. She did refuse what they offered her, and therefore should shut up and find another school.

Basically. Should they have upped the ante? How much more? Mr. Smithee put it well just above: if she is going to quit someday, why not now when she has received an offer of help? She is not proud, meaning she knows it is wrong. Why not quit now?

I was more offended at (and replying to) the man's assumption that all strippers are crackwhores.

Of course, not all of anything are anything. But there are, I would think, a larger percentage in this business than in others. Seediness is not just al in our imaginations. Yes, there are girls who do it only for tuition, or money for a house or whatever goal they have. But there are others who are trapped in the life.

SD

237 posted on 05/17/2002 8:34:11 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: AppyPappy
Drug dealing and prostitution are illegal. Stripping is not.
238 posted on 05/17/2002 8:35:02 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: KimaraChan
And she should have made the school clarify what the "values" were that she was supposed to uphold before signing the document, since that part sounds a bit vague.

Seriously? You don't think that most Christian Churches would consider stripping to be an inappropriate occupation?

It doesn't require elaboration to me.

SD

239 posted on 05/17/2002 8:36:32 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
I don't think He was saying that the repercussions of the mental-only act are the same as the physical act.

With that quote, though, I think he is. If you look at a woman and think, "yeah, she's sexy, I wonder what it would be like to have sex with her," this quote tells me JC thinks I just committed adultery with her. And adultery is no small potatoes---it's one of the only things that can, legitimately, annul a catholic marriage.

The effect is the same on your soul. The effect is not necessarily the same to other people. Then again, it is your soul that is the important part, right?

SD

240 posted on 05/17/2002 8:38:32 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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