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To: cogitator
I predict that by 2012 a lot of these suggested trends will turn out to have been quite accurate predictors.

Oh please take me up on that. I have at least $10K I would put down against the wacko-environmentalist worst-worst-worst case computer similations being anywhere close to correct.

37 posted on 05/17/2002 10:33:42 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Oh please take me up on that. I have at least $10K I would put down against the wacko-environmentalist worst-worst-worst case computer similations being anywhere close to correct.

Well, if one was to bet on a subject like this, one would have be quite specific about the terms, and the determination of whether or not a predicted outcome had been realized. Now, you are proposing to wager that none of the "worst-worst-worst case computer simulations" will turn out to be close to correct. I think that's a pretty safe bet! Thus, I (or anyone) would be pretty dumb to take you up on it.

Now, here's a clearer statement of my prediction. If you can figure out how to quantify it, then I'd put a 12-pack of Blue Ridge Amber Lager on the line. To make it fun.

"A variety of indicators exhibit trends as of year 2002 that if continued would support the observtion of a basic decline in global environmental quality. By the year 2012, these trends will be clearly more indicative of declining environmental quality than in 2002. While a few of these trends may be reversible via concerted action, the majority of the trends will not reverse by 2012."

I'd suggest proposing 15 indicators that have a defined trend over 1992-2002. I'd predict that by 2012 a majority (8) of these indicators will have a more pronounced trend in the same direction as current.

So, if one wanted to use the Hudson Bay polar bears as an example, we'd need to have data showing a decreasing trend in average weight or average fat rating (the article linked describes that assessment). I'd make two predictions that could be assessed on this indicator: a) that the population of Hudson Bay polar bears will decline 2002-2012; and b) that the remaining population will have a lower average weight and fat content in 2012 than in 2002.

49 posted on 05/17/2002 11:49:46 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
cogitator: "I predict that by 2012 a lot of these suggested trends will turn out to have been quite accurate predictors."

Always Right: "Oh please take me up on that. I have at least $10K I would put down against the wacko-environmentalist worst-worst-worst case computer similations being anywhere close to correct."

Considering the whackos were calling for an acceration of global warming and it flattened out, I am thinking I was correct.

Always Right: 1

Consensus of the Greatest Scientists in the world: 0

196 posted on 01/30/2012 10:04:40 AM PST by Always Right
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