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To: Always Right
I would propose 2, if either one happens you win. The IPCC predicts about a 4-10 degree F rise in temps over the next 100 years. I would say lets place the limit at 0.5 degree F rise over the next 10 years as measured by US thermometer data. The IPCC is predicting a 5mm rise per year in sea levels. That's about 2.5 inches over 10 years, not sure who I trust on this one, but I am sure we can agree on someone.

You gotta remember, I'm not advocating worst-case IPCC scenarios. I think we're going to see a ~2.5 C rise in global temperature in the next CENTURY. Which (if linear, which it won't be) would be 0.25 C in 10 years. That's 0.4 F in 10 years. So if you'd be willing to bet on a 0.3 F (0.18 C) degree rise in global temperature as determined by the National Climatic Data Center over the next decade, I'd take it (for a 12-pack of Blue Ridge Amber Lager, not for $10K). And I win if for any year the yearly global average temperature is 0.18 C higher than the yearly global average temperature for 2002. This year could have a moderate El Nino in it, so that's not a bad starting point.

I don't trust anybody's sea-level rise data. The difference between U.S. analysis of TOPEX/Poseidon altimetry data and European analysis of the same data is different by like 5 mm. So here's an alternative: the timing of spring thaw on northern lakes and rivers will be earlier, on average, by more than 1 day over the period 2002-2012. We will consult Dr. John Magnuson of the University of Wisconsin or whoever inherits his data set should he become unavailable.

72 posted on 05/17/2002 1:04:28 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Actually, I wasn't using the worst case IPCC numbers, but their best case numbers (which are really worst-worst case numbers). But anyways the 0.3F degree rise is probably a reasonable place to set the mark. Here is NCDC data for the US:

I don't think a single year would work very well as the yearly values vary too greatly and it would be very likely one year would be higher. We could set the starting point at 54.2F for 2001 and if the data for 2002-2012 produce a best fit line with a tempreture greater than 54.5F in 2012, you win.

75 posted on 05/17/2002 2:27:56 PM PDT by Always Right
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