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SENATE VOTED 58 TO 38 FOR "SOCIALISTIC" (SEN. NICKLES) WAGE INSURANCE PROGRAM YESTERDAY
AP via Yahoo News and CSPAN ^ | 16 May 2002

Posted on 05/17/2002 11:00:03 AM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis

In the struggle to pass the Andean Trade Act, which the Bush Administration wants passed because it includes fast-track trade negotiating reauthorization, important principles are at stake. The Senate, which debated various amendments to the enabling bill today, voted in one case on nothing less than the fate of our very economic system -- as Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) pointed out in the gripping debate. Sen. Don Nickles (R-Okla) called it "socialistic" (the AP story quoted him incorrectly as saying it was "pre-socialistic") and said "I'm embarrassed how bad this idea is." Curiously, an updated version of the AP story (the one likely to make it into the papers) on this debate deleted the comments by Nickles!!!! Compare...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020516/ap_on_go_co/congress_trade_47

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020516/ap_on_go_co/congress_trade_46

Sen. Daschle and the Leftist clique running the Senate added provisions to the bill that would create what Sen. Daschle called a "powerful idea" -- a NEW ENTITLEMENT for WAGE INSURANCE. "Powerful idea" is right -- he got it from Marx. It's called wage controls.

Before I get to wage "insurance," the Amendment also expands coverage for training and assistance programs to workers "indirectly" affected by foreign trade. Entitlements are proposed to include coverage of 70% of health care costs -- in perpetuity post-job transition (a back door to socializing health care!!!). Daschle, et. al., know that more than half of all of private commercial activities have an "indirect" foreign trade aspect today -- from the metal stamping companies supplying parts to exporters to restaurants in Silicon Valley and PA mill towns. If this passes into law, socialism will come not in one fell swoop, but gradually over the next decade through the turnover in jobs "affected by foreign trade" and a steady Congressal and Court-driven expansion of the entitlements. We can be certain that the Courts will have a role in defining what constitutes a job affected by foreign trade.

Now for the WAGE INSURANCE bureaucracy that may be created if this monstrosity is approved. Having broadened coverage to potentially tens of millions, a new program under this bill is proposed to have the government pay -- in perpetuity as a permanent entitlement! -- up to 50% of the "income" lost when moving from a higher paying job to a lower paying one. There are NO income limits or needs tests (socialism for everyone)! So, as two opponents pointed out on the floor, even millionaire business owners would qualify to get their $5K -- the provisional "cap" for the "pilot" program. And you don't have to be laid off to qualify! Sen. Gregg cited an example of someone quitting their high tech job to become a golf pro and getting a permanent subsidy of $5k per year (under the "pilot" limit).

The "pilot program" was "funded" to the tune of $50MM -- a figure that Sen. Gregg and others scoffed at. Sen. Daschle and liberal Republican conferees came up with that absurd number by putting a temporary "cap" or max on the entitlement of $5K and estimating the total based on the numbers of people who applied under the old program. Various Republican opponents noted that this is duplicitous, because the entitlements are far "richer" than in the original program, and the base of potential applicants astronomically greater.

As Sen. Gregg pointed out, the wage insurance vote was about creating a new bureaucracy and a principle that Congress and the Courts WILL expand. Sen. Gregg (quoted by AP):"This is a brand new, major entitlement which will expand dramatically. It is not some benign little pilot program." The potential growth is not merely to a few $billion within a few years as one Senator observed, but by my estimate HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS -- when socialists in the Courts get at this.

The actual vote was on an amendment proposed by Sen. Gregg to eliminate the wage insurance program from the bill. Various Senators argued that "it was only $50MM," but Sen. Gregg correctly pointed out that if the numbers were so small why was it "key" to the compromise? Moreover, as Sen. Nickles pointed out, why was this new program literally added at the last second -- and never debated (for some Senators it was news) -- as part of a "compromise" to get the Trade Act to the floor with fast-track reauthorization included?

The vote was about "PRINCIPLE" (Gregg) and setting the stage for the explosive growth of a new entitlement bureaucracy. The vote itself -- to "table" or kill the amendment -- was positioned by defenders of the "compromise," including REPUBLICAN Senators Phil Gramm (R-Tex) and Charles Grassley (R-Iowa) as necessary to keep fast-track reauthorization alive. Gramm and Grassley were among the 58 who voted to KILL the Gregg amendment. Bizarre and curious, since it was the same Sen. Gramm who said in the course of the debate that if a larger (current "funding") entitlement to workers of defunct and bankrupt companies driven out of business because of trade (the $179MM so-called "steel workers amendment" proposed by John D. Rockefeller (D.W.Va)) was added, he was "off this bill."

Sen. Gramm compared wage insurance as a compromise akin to deciding it was better to "kiss a pig on the mouth" instead of somewhere else. What he failed to distinguish was that a pig is a PIG, no matter what end you're looking at.

The entire point of the exercise by Daschle, et. al., is to get the Bush Administration to back away from this bill by making the "compromise" so unpalatable that even a doctrinaire free trader like President Bush has to retreat and come at this again some other day (post-November). White House press secretary Ari Fleischer was quoted in the AP story arguing that Sen. Rockefeller's "steelworkers' amendment" sent a "troubling signal that the Senate is seeking to undermine the possibility of passage of free trade." No kidding.

What is more disturbing is that the WH and Gramm aren't ready to take a stand on WAGE INSURANCE. Daschle has given the Republican leaders in the Senate and the WH an issue to DESTROY Democrats with in the Fall!!!! "Vote against Wage Insurance and Socialism!"

But, Nooo!!!! They would rather stage manage this fight over the "somewhere else" on the PIG than publicly -- and loudly -- walk away from this despicable "compromise" with socialism out of PRINCIPLE.

If the White House signs off on this swinish "compromise," a transition from social democracy to democratic socialism will be inevitable (The Republic was usurped long ago!). All in the name of so-called "free trade" and the dislocating effects it causes when one is determined to promote pseudo-"free" trade with socialist governments. It takes one to trade with one!

Laissez-faire "free trade" of the sort our current president appears to hold dear is a concept and world view much broader than foreign trade conducted with national interests at heart -- that is, in the latter case, with select partners intended to accumulate wealth and access to necessary resources. Indeed, I would argue that there are two schools of thought among "free traders" -- nationalist (rooted in Adam Smith's original thinking and 200 years of American prosperity) and globalist. Globalist "free" trade promotes a vision of open and broad-based commerce intended to create "interdependence" with almost any country not at war with us or with voting blocks of expats within the US determined to prevent it. The more pernicious and tyrannical zealots of globalist free trade dare to advance the notion that sovereign choices about how and who we trade with should be "regulated" by international organizations. However, "free" trade can only be truly "free" when it is with similarly free peoples with shared values and interests, and committed to fair and open competition. Doctrinaire "globalist" free-traders, who love their junkets to communist China and socialist Mexico, talk constantly about promoting "free market" values in places like China through trade. However, some are so zealous or selfish that they are intellectually blind to the reality that in order to achieve marginal ideological advances overseas they must also create sometimes severe economic dislocations at home -- which work to PROMOTE socialism in the United States (from subsidies to farmers to this welfare program for "trade affected" workers). In the Andean Trade Act, that relationship is, as one Senator put it, the "key" to the "compromise." Trade with socialists and compromise with socialism.

Article by James F. Burke


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1 posted on 05/17/2002 11:00:03 AM PDT by CaptIsaacDavis
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To: CaptIsaacDavis, Miss Marple
What in hexxxxx is this about? Perhaps this explains why the all out attack begun yesterday by Hitlery and her demon horde? To divert attention from this garbage???? This is totally the first I have heard of this.....where in the world did this come from (besides from the depths of socialist hell???)
2 posted on 05/17/2002 11:09:44 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
DEMOCRAT = COMMUNIST
3 posted on 05/17/2002 11:42:51 AM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt; Landru; scholar; sultan88
"This is totally the first I have heard of this.....where in the world did this come from (besides from the depths of socialist hell???)"

"Socialist Hell" is correct...this legislation makes "Living Wage" legislation look like child's play!! Yet another great example why you can never compromise with the Collectivist RATS...they'll always--ALWAYS--ask for more!!

SHEEEEEESH...MUD

4 posted on 05/17/2002 11:46:55 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim;Sultan88;Landru
Will have to finish this one later--like Sultan, I'm way to close to a coronary.
5 posted on 05/17/2002 11:56:03 AM PDT by scholar
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To: CaptIsaacDavis;/\XABN584; 10mm; 3D-JOY; 75thOVI; a contender; AABC; abenaki...
This is ONE of the many "compromises" made by conservatives in this bill in exchance for the "fast track" trade authority which was essentially eliminated by AMDMT 3408...

see my post..*** Action Alert *** VETO HR.3009

6 posted on 05/17/2002 12:09:31 PM PDT by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
BTTT!!!!!!
7 posted on 05/17/2002 12:12:26 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: scholar
This is hard to believe. Who voted against it? Where can we find out more about this?
8 posted on 05/17/2002 12:13:54 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: bybybill
Senate Vote #110
9 posted on 05/17/2002 12:18:01 PM PDT by davidosborne
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To: Mudboy Slim
"In the struggle to pass the Andean Trade Act, which the Bush Administration wants passed..."

What in the hell is THAT?
Is this some kind of a JOKE?
It'd be the second joke I've read here in the past 15 minutes if it is; &, I gotta tell ya -- I ain't laughing.

Lookit; when everything's said & done?
Do we really want to do business with the 'Rats if it means this kind of crap?

...let's not; &, say we did.

10 posted on 05/17/2002 12:32:28 PM PDT by Landru
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
We all need to realize that the Left has won. We cannot drive them back through conventional political means. The average American is on some form of welfare. The people have figured out how to vote themselves free money. My money, and yours if you earn over forty grand a year. What we need in the West is economic collapse. Only pure capitalism and freedom will be able to rebuild what we have thrown out with the trash. Let it be.
11 posted on 05/17/2002 12:39:31 PM PDT by mercy
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To: Landru
What you mean 'we' white man? You got a mouse in your pocket?
12 posted on 05/17/2002 12:41:21 PM PDT by mercy
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To: davidosborne
Thanks for the info. Now I`m even more confused. several real Republicans seem to be on the "wrong side", Craig, Allen,Bunning,Thurman,....while Lieberman and a few more Rats are on the other side. Doesn`t make sense, are you sure that the bill is about what you think its about, respectfully?
13 posted on 05/17/2002 12:49:20 PM PDT by bybybill
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To: Landru
"Do we really want to do business with the 'Rats if it means this kind of crap? ...let's not; &, say we did."

Exactly!! Between now and November, Dubyuh and the GOPers need to quit compromising and draw some lines in the sand to differentiate the Right from the RATS...then take the argument to the Leftist scumbags during the mid-term campaigns.

FReegards...MUD

14 posted on 05/17/2002 1:20:10 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Askel5
Bump
15 posted on 05/17/2002 2:19:13 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Landru
You know. Andes. Those little mints they leave on your hotel bed pillow.
16 posted on 05/17/2002 2:40:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: mercy
"What you mean 'we' white man?"

Ughhh kimosabee; you got da color right.

"You got a mouse in your pocket?"

mercy-me.
*Unusually* surly today; aren't we?
(Awwww yer just pissed 'cuz they told ya to stick your CC deduction where the sun don't shine...eh? ;^) )

Frankly?
I'm somewhat surprised seeing you're still 'round here & not in a low earth orbit.

...courtesy of FR's catapult?

17 posted on 05/17/2002 2:44:07 PM PDT by Landru
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To: pabianice;sultan88;mudboy slim;scholar
"You know. Andes. Those little mints they leave on your hotel bed pillow."

Oh of course; those things.
Well that's different, then.

I'd thought this thing might've been named in honor of a famous & well known gay congressional Page named *Ande*.
Maybe one who died of AIDS?

Actually?
I should've known better; since, the conspicuous absence of an apostrophe is quite glaring.

...just goes to show there's a lot more to a name than ya might think at first glance.

18 posted on 05/17/2002 2:55:11 PM PDT by Landru
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To: Mudboy Slim;scholar;sultan88
"GOPers need to quit compromising and draw some lines in the sand to differentiate the Right from the RATS...then take the argument to the Leftist scumbags during the mid-term campaigns."

What...& make 'em mad?
Or worse yet; hurt their feelings?

...sayyyyyy what are you, some kind of troublemaker or somthing?

19 posted on 05/17/2002 3:03:01 PM PDT by Landru
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To: bybybill;all
absolutely.. I watched the debate intently... many "Senators" are so concerned about the "pressure" they might get if they have to vote down a trade deal that contains items they don't like.. its about "job security" for some.. so they want to retain to retain the right to change the deal without actually having to take a stand "for" or "against".... which in essence takes away the credibility of the negotiators at the table.. other nations understand that a "deal" with the United States is not valid unless endorsed by congress, but lets give our negotiators some credibility by not allowing congress to change the deal, just take or leave it.. if they reject it, I am quite sure there will be a LOUD and CLEAR debate as to what portions of the deal need work.. it makes no sense to "ammend" the deal that another country agreed to and then say you "supported" it when you really did not..

Sen Gramm from Texas summed it up pretty well earlier this week on the AMDMT debate I will try to find it in the cong. record if you like, and post it here...

20 posted on 05/17/2002 3:30:43 PM PDT by davidosborne
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